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Old 06-30-2019, 07:39 AM
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I just picked up at LGS a CZ 427 Youth Carbine in 7.69x39. I bought it with the intention that my grown daughter will use it as a deer rifle (less than 75 yard, broadside shots from stand with 123 grain hunting loads by Hornady).

However, this rifle fits me better than any rifle I've ever picked up! I love the slim grip and the LOP. My daughter is 5 4" and I'm MUCH taller at 5 5"

I regret this rifle is available only in 5.56 and 7.69.

I don't suppose there is another CZ that you CZ. experts know about that is built on that 527 stock? I bought the 455 Youth Scout that same day in .22LR intended for a grandson to squirrel hunt. Heck, while the LOP is short (12" vs 13" on the 527) I could also hunt with it.

Reckon I'm going to be spending some gunsmith bucks on LOP adjusting on some of my favorites. I have the Zephyr II and it is almost 14.5 LOP with the butt pad. I'm going to have an inch lopped of it.

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I hear 'ya BowWild. I LOVE the way a 527 Carbine shoulders....and was quite comfortable with the feel of the 455 Scout as well. Both on my Xmas Wishlist (early). :-)
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I wonder if the standard taper American or Lux 527 of any caliber will fit in the youth stock? That will solve this problem for you. 6.5 Grendel is a nice deer load.
Just saying.
Never tried this myself.
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As far as I know (and you couldn't throw me very far ) it would pretty much have to be the exact same caliber for the stocks to be interchangeable. CZ 527 stocks are inletted for the specific caliber and the magazine release has to fit between the stock and receiver just right to work. You might be able to find something if you had a bunch of 527 stocks to play with, but that might get to be expensive. Of course you could ask CZ, but they probably would not know.

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I do have limited experience, but it may not apply. I put my 527 Carbine 7.62x39 in a Lux stock from an unknown caliber. The Lux never came in 7.62x39 to my knowledge. The fit was perfect; maybe dumb luck.
Again I haven't played around with the youth length stocks.
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I believe the 527 and now 457 are the only two guns CZ offers in a youth stock.

The 527 is now available in 6.5 Grinell which is looks like a winner on paper and in the reviews. Then you dont say what you want. I will go out on a limb and assume you can buy the 527 youth stock. With a choice of 223, 6.5 and 762 the 527 covers a lot of ground from paper, small game and upto medium stuff like white tail. The 762 gives up some range. The 6.5 looks like a nice compromise.

The real nice feature on all the youth guns is the short barrel. If you get the 6.5 that is 24 inch long (adult only rifle). It is easy to say this: I would consider having that cut back to 18 or 20. The 18 for handling and proportion in a youth stock and the 20 for reduced noise and likely insignificant ballistic edge. Keep in mind the 6.5 was intended to work in an AR with a 14 to 16 inch barrel. OT rant, sorry.

IIRC, the Remington model 7 was offered in a youth and that gun is chambered for the 308 size cartridges. For a 308, a stock swap might be required. The youth would be a 243. Dont underestimate the 243, but; its not a 308 either. Another route rather than swap the stock is swap the barrel. Remington action is pretty easy for that. The 243 youth, right out of the box is a good step up. Unfortunately Remington's reputation is in the toilet these days. My old Model 7 is great. I would hope the Model 7 has suffered less than some other remlin junk.

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I do have limited experience, but it may not apply. I put my 527 Carbine 7.62x39 in a Lux stock from an unknown caliber. The Lux never came in 7.62x39 to my knowledge. The fit was perfect; maybe dumb luck.
Again I haven't played around with the youth length stocks.
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My 7.62x39 Carbine fit perfectly into a .22 Hornet Lux stock, the inlet for the rear sight lug would be the main thing to be aware of, my .222 Lux also had irons so it would have fit also.
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The OP wants a youth stock. I think the most performance in a factory chambering that should drop in a youth stock, is the 6.5 Grindel. Now, I wonder what would fit if a good gunsmith went to work on it. The 450 Buckmaster comes to mind. Single stack magazine, perfect - maybe? Or not, I guess the 450 is fatter with a rebated rim to fit the 527/AR15 bolt faces. CZ seems to follow these trends, maybe they will jump on the "special states" deer hunting band wagon. Ruger did not waste any time with a 450.

Hey, Ruger makes a modular synthetic Ruger American Compact is offered in 6 loadings. I guess, the OP has handled that one already.
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