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Old 04-29-2019, 10:34 PM
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Signalman 1, I ordered my 527 Varmint in 222 Remington on 8-18-17. If my numbers are correct it is one of 47 222 Remington Varmint 527's brought into the U.S. after a trip down south. CZ markets the 222 Rem Varmint in Europe and Mexico but I dont believe the Varmint style has been offered in the states in 222 before this. My 222 Remington Full Stock was ordered on 3-27-18 and also had a southern vacation. The Full Stock 527's were offered in 222 Rem by CZ before this, I think they discontinued them in 2012, but could very well be wrong on the date. I cant find my notes but if I remember correctly there were 50 something 222 Full Stocks offered with the Mexican import marks. Both of my rifles have a 2010 manufacturing date stamp. I tried to find out more on how these rifles with there Mexican import marks as well as there Kansas import marks came to be offered here but without to much luck.
59801 sir you are correct on the varmint not being offered before...I bought my 527 American like Feb of 2017 because I only had a choice of an American or a Lux...I handled the Lux at the SHOT Show and that made up my mind to order an American. I also bought a 527 Royal in 223, 527 American in 22 Hornet and one in 17 Hornet and a few others so I was not just sitting on my wallet.

Then in early 2018 the Varmint model showed up and that was what I wanted the whole time...I never knew they made them. Well I bought one and around October of 2018 the FS showed up and I was torn about getting one...I waited for about 4 months to see if I really wanted one and while I was waiting to see what was going to be new for CZ at the Shot Show...and the 457 information came out very early for 2019...IIRC it was just before thanksgiving time...normally the information on new rifles comes out mid January for the SHOT SHOW so the 457 was super early. So after the Show I ordered my FS.

Anyway I am super happy I have all three of them now...and I just might get a Lux to top it all off. Time will tell.

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Old 04-30-2019, 05:10 PM
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Do you know anything about the 527's in 222 Remington that were reimported (?) from Mexico and how this came to be? I've seen a fair amount of opinion and conjecture but not very many facts. Just one of those silly things that I've wondered about since I purchased my 222 Varmint and saw the Mexican import marks. Now if we can convince CZ that we all need a 527 Varmint in 22 Hornet I'll race to be first in line.
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Old 04-30-2019, 09:29 PM
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It feeds and functions flawless but I have not got to a place to shoot it.
Drop by my place and we can step out back.
Nice looking rig and a nice price. Now, if you only had a use for it! LOL
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Old 04-30-2019, 09:42 PM
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Well Ohio is a bit odd with their hunting regs. Groundhogs, coyotes, and wild boar are all fine to hunt with anything you want. I wish I could "step out in the backyard" and shoot the high power stuff. My backyard is limited to rimfire and pistol calibers.
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I could find a place to shoot it.

222 is just great, accurate. Just got back from Montana gopher, PD week of hunting. 222 did a lot of one shot kills, usually under 250 yards. took me 4 shots to hit a PD at 600+ yards, lots of cross-wind. Fellow sitting on the ground next to me spotting my shots, went to the gun show the following day and bought a triple duce.
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Old 05-02-2019, 01:38 PM
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Wow. You did quite well, I'm sure; especially for Cabela's/Bass Pro, considering their recent increases in prices of used guns.
That someone would go to the trouble/expense of putting a heavier contour aftermarket barrel on what was probably already a decent-shooting CZ .222 just proves there is a market here for heavy-barreled 527s in chamberings other than what's being sold in the US. Getting one of those HB Mexican-market .222s was on my bucket list but I lollygagged, then blew this year's new-gun budget on a .220 Swift just as that Minn. dealer sold the last one.
As much as I like CZ 527 rifles (I've owned three), I have little love for their pencil-barreled "Americans" in any caliber/cartridge. I even wish my little .22 Hornet came with a bit more barrel. The Lux model does look to have a bit longer barrel, but I couldn't find one at the time, plus the drooping buttstock isn't my cup of tea, no offense intended to those who own that style.
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Old 05-02-2019, 07:46 PM
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If your really going to reach out and touch something it's hard to beat the Swift. A favorite of mine since 1979. You have to wonder why CZ hasn't seen fit to sell some of there 222 Remington Varmint rifles in the U.S.A. every so often. They already produce and sell them else where in the world so they would only have to run a few more for the states. They must sell a few 222's in the U.S.A. or why else would they offered it here in the Full Stock, Lux and American. If you were to ask most American shooters what the 222 Remington was most useful for they would probably answer target shooting and pest control. The 527 Varmint fits that description pretty well.
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:00 AM
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Do you know anything about the 527's in 222 Remington that were reimported (?) from Mexico and how this came to be? I've seen a fair amount of opinion and conjecture but not very many facts. Just one of those silly things that I've wondered about since I purchased my 222 Varmint and saw the Mexican import marks. Now if we can convince CZ that we all need a 527 Varmint in 22 Hornet I'll race to be first in line.
59801 sir the one I got does NOT have the Mexico roll mark:





and I don't know why ?? Every other one I have seen has it. My 527 FS in 222 does. Now a 22 Hornet in a Varmint would really be sweet and we would have to see who gets one first

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Agreed then. "CZ, IF YOU'RE LISTENING: AMERICAN SHOOTERS WANT MORE VARMINT-BARRELED 527s!!!"

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Agreed then. "CZ, IF YOU'RE LISTENING: AMERICAN SHOOTERS WANT MORE VARMINT-BARRELED 527s!!!"
Deathwind II sir trust me CZ workers are here in the back ground...when I went to the SHOT Show in Vegas in January I talked with a few of the CZ reps and they are here..I know the faces of them because I have talked with them for years but don't remember their handle...I forgot what they told me they were...but no matter they are watching...only problem they have no control on what they get shipped here to the United States...but they do listen...I bugged the crap out of them two years ago about recoil pads. For four days straight they knew I was the CZ recoil pad guy. I hope the reason they have recoil pads on all their 457s now is because of me...I am probably just dreaming about that...I have no idea...I hammered them on FullStocks this time. Time will tell. I would fall over and die if they had a special run of FS or Varmints in 2020.

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Well CZ will definitely keep you guessing. Both my CZ 222 Remington's are 2010 date stamped and the serial numbers both have an "A" prefix, the Varmint is A8052XX and the Full Stock is A8054XX. Both wear the Mexico import stamps. I have a later 527 with a 2016 date stamp and serial number B9400XX and a 2017 527 with serial number C2229XX. Your rifle I would bet with its "C" serial number prefix has either a 2016 or 2017 date stamp. It was my impression that all the 222 Varmint models that were sold in the U.S.A. had been reimported from Mexico and of the same vintage. Wrong again, back to trying to come up with a new guess. What do you think the odds are you have a one of one instead of 1 in 47 CZ 222 Varmint. The sole one of the 47 rifles released with out the Mexican import mark? Or did CZ notice that the 222's sold pretty quickly and bring in some more?
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Well CZ will definitely keep you guessing. Both my CZ 222 Remington's are 2010 date stamped and the serial numbers both have an "A" prefix, the Varmint is A8052XX and the Full Stock is A8054XX. Both wear the Mexico import stamps. I have a later 527 with a 2016 date stamp and serial number B9400XX and a 2017 527 with serial number C2229XX. Your rifle I would bet with its "C" serial number prefix has either a 2016 or 2017 date stamp. It was my impression that all the 222 Varmint models that were sold in the U.S.A. had been reimported from Mexico and of the same vintage. Wrong again, back to trying to come up with a new guess. What do you think the odds are you have a one of one instead of 1 in 47 CZ 222 Varmint. The sole one of the 47 rifles released with out the Mexican import mark? Or did CZ notice that the 222's sold pretty quickly and bring in some more?
I think there are probably too many players and variables to make a good guess. Let's say that there were a certain number made for each market, but they proved to be more popular in the US than in the Mexican market, and sold out. So there is a distributor in Mexico sitting on a palate of these things that there is no immediate need for there, and he starts to think, "how to I get liquid on this so I can get back to making money?" And there's the US market, so hungry for the thing he's overstocked on. So he calls Bud's or a jobber here, and does his deal. But at the same time, CZ-USA is reading the tea leaves in the US and says to the mothership, "they seem to like .222 in a Varmint or FS models. Send us some more." So you have supply and demand, but more than one supply chain once the things are out in the stream of commerce. And my guess is that all those models will eventually make their way back here in the future, if demand remains strong. All pure speculation, of course. There could be a dozen other ways it happened.
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I just got my 517 LUX in 222 and was cleaning it since it set around for like 9 years LOL and got things to work like they should when clean. I had noticed the Mexico stamp on the side and got curious and googled it and found what it meant but right now i really can't remember the entire thing, something about the defense secretary was the only person allowed to purchase firearms for resale to dealers.
mine was also made in 2010 with a number of A804---. I don't know about yours but mine was as dirty as could be internally from setting and had to be stripped and cleaned real good.
I really like it and can't wait to shoot it, my wife said it's a cute little thing, I won't argue about that she isn't against me buying them. Like the rest of you I too wish they made a varmint in 222 or maybe an MTR in 222.
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That story is what I've been able to learn as well whtsmoke, Mexicans aren't allowed (legally, discounting foreign government "stings") to own military calibers, so the .222 rather than a .223 etc.
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As stated earlier the Mexican government has a prohibition on military cartridges. That's the reason the 38 Super 1911 is so popular south of the border and the CZ Varmints and Full Stocks are 222 Remington as opposed to 223 Rem/5.56. The "S.D.N. Mexico D.F." means "Secertaria de la Defense Nacional Mexico, Mexico City Distrito Federal" basically the Mexican Department of National Defense. My understanding is there's one gun store in Mexico City run by the military for civilian gun sales. I can't guarantee these numbers but I believe there were 47 222 Varmint rifles and 49 Full Stocks brought into the U.S. from Mexico. Supposedly the Mexican laws require that the guns be imported disassembled and the S.D.N. Mexico D.F. mark is applied when the guns are assembled in Mexico. I have tried to find out how and why these rifles came to be brought into the states but with no luck. When trying to find out about this I found that it is not uncommon to find S&W, Colt, CZ 75-85 and various other firearms so marked.
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