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Old 10-20-2015, 09:22 AM
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Last week I stumbled into a M46 at a LGS. Built in 1959 (serial # 253xx) the pistol was outfitted with a 5" red ramp barrel. The plastic grips are very nice as is the bluing for a 50+ year old gun. I'm aware that it is claimed that Smith and Wesson produced 1,000 M46 pistols. The pistol has the square cut slide.

Questions.

Did this M46 originally sport a 7" or a 5.5" barrel ? and,
How many red ramp 5" barrels did SW produce -- are they rare, or no ?

I happen to own and shoot 60's era 7" and 5.5" M41's -- wonderful pistols, accurate and cycle CCI standard flawlessly. I'm in the process of sorting out the cycling in the new to me M46 -- too many stove pipes for my taste (approx. 25%). (Buffer and spring on the way, ejector and spring on back order).

Thanks for any thoughts.

David
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Old 10-20-2015, 11:05 AM
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Would think your 46 will check out closer to 1962.
The first 46s came out with the 7" bbl but the 5" about the same time
According to Std Cat of S&W 1000 5" and 500 5.5" (but some bbls sold separately)
As to the Red Ramp, I have never seen a 5" RR (but with S&W - ????)
DO NOT use anything BUT std. velocity in your 46 - the square cut slides are most susceptible to cracking.

Are you saying extractor or ejector?
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Old 10-20-2015, 11:46 AM
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Tom --Thanks for the more precise 1962 dating. Somewhere I read that the 5" RR barrel was an accessory -- so, if this was it, my M46 must have been originally a 7 incher.

The slide has a real nice weld job port side -- explains the $400 price tag. I sort of like it from an historical perspective.

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ps. extractor
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Old 10-21-2015, 02:02 PM
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Is it a LW barrel or bull?

http://smith-wessonforum.com/135323333-post4.html?
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Old 10-22-2015, 09:24 AM
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It's a LW barrel. It's pretty much like my 7" barreled M41 if it were to be cut off at the 5" spot on the barrel. When I put the M46 and M41 barrels side by side looking straight at them the M46 has a little more steel above as well as side to side below the bore. But, the M46 barrel is chopped down -- not a bull barrel. I have a M41 5.5" bull barreled pistol so I know the M46 is not like it at all.

I've asked the owner of the LGS where I purchased the M46 to contact the son who was selling off his father's estate guns to determine if another M46 barrel might be laying around in a drawer. Possibly dad purchased the 5" barrel as an accessory while the gun was originally 7" barreled.

Who knows !

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Old 10-22-2015, 12:06 PM
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FYI, I found extractors on eBay.
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Old 10-25-2015, 09:30 AM
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To my knowledge S&W didn't start putting red ramps on any of the 5" Field Barrels until well after the Model 46 was dropped from production. I doubt they would have made a red ramp barrel for the economy 46 before the top of the line 41. It's most likely the red insert was added by a gunsmith. This was a common modification on revolvers for many years. Cut the slot, add the epoxy and shape to match the ramp.
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Old 11-15-2015, 06:24 PM
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S&W did indeed manufacture and sell the red insert field barrels. I purchased one directly from S&W in the early 1980s. Really takes the weight off the pistol.
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Old 11-17-2015, 09:55 AM
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Well success ! Changed out the extractor and spring. Added a new buffer (no buffer was in the gun) plus spring. And, swapped out a few different mags and presto the old girl (1962) cycles CCI SV like a champ. I suspect the stove piping and jams were due to multiple issues that the changes noted above fixed overall. Anyway, agree that the 5" field/ hunt barrel really lightens the M46-- fun gun to shoot.

Thanks for the input.

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David

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Old 11-25-2015, 06:09 PM
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I have a light weight field barrel 5 inch with the red ramp front sight and the rear sight has two white dots on both sides of the notch. Appears to be factory.

I purchased the pistol used, original box, with a heavy 5 1/2 inch barrel and that field barrel was included in the deal.

Sure wish S&W would manufacture the 5 inch field barrel again. They would sell hundreds of them if the price was reasonable. The price now for used ones are way out of line.
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Old 11-25-2015, 09:34 PM
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alf, your 41 5" bbl is one of the most rare ones. Guessing it is the standard "&" rather than the earlier "LAZY &".
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Old 11-26-2015, 09:53 PM
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Tom, I believe that barrel is not the old style, lazy "&" sign. In the past I did have both the 5" red ramp front and the 5"field partridge type front with of course no red. I remember I purchased them direct from S&W in the mid 1980's for about $75.00 each or so and sold them at a gun show. I wish I bought a ton of them now.

The red ramps I purchased did not have the 2 white dots in the rear. They sure
are nice barrels....
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Old 11-27-2015, 12:41 AM
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This thread is seriously lacking pictures.
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Old 11-27-2015, 01:39 AM
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This thread is seriously lacking pictures.
My only 41 must have been broken,,, somebody screwed the barrel back together,,,



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My only 41 must have been broken,,, somebody screwed the barrel back together,,,



Funny I have 2 41's with barrels that look just like that! And one with a 5inch field barrel ramped front sight. And a spare 41 optics barrel.
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