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Old 02-12-2018, 11:00 AM
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I was given a rough 97 a while back and would like to do something with it. The bore is in bad shape, extensive pitting and the rifling is very poor in the first 5" or so after the chamber. There is a fair amount of rust on the outside, but little to no potting.

The left side of the receiver has what appears to be 3 scope mounting holes that were welded up at some point. It's also missing the cartridge guide (I think), that mounts from the top. The serial number is 5 digits and either starts with a 33 or 36, I can't remember at this time.

I feel that I want to restore it to working condition. It needs a barrel liner for sure, and it will need some sort of refinishing, but I don't know what type at this point.

Who can do the reline? Is there someone who specialises in these rifles so I could just send it to them to take care of these issues? Lastly, with the condition it's in, is it worth it? What would the value be now, and after the rework?

Thanks, I'm new here.

Jason
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:32 PM
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26" special order barrel. It's worth about $300-$400 as is.

If the mag tube assembly is working that's worth about $200.
The barreled action is worth about $300
The buttstock and forearm wood is worth about $300-$400
The rear Rocky Mountain sight and elevator is worth about $70

A reline and parts to get it shooting.....about $300.
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Old 02-12-2018, 04:15 PM
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Get the barrel relined, clean it up and rust blue it.

That's my .02.

There are some threads here on Rust Bluing.

https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...=290576&page=8
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Old 02-12-2018, 04:16 PM
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Looks like a great project. I'd certainaly get it shooting. As for the external rust don't use steel wool. Get a Big 45 pad. These are amazing on removing surface rust while not damaging whats left of the blueing. Just use it with oil and gently work it over the surface. Good luck and post some follow up pics.

Ordering direct is the cheapest. http://big45.com/

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Old 02-14-2018, 11:22 AM
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i see why so many are lost to the parts market , but since ive never seen one available i would most definitely invest in the project and preserve it ,
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Old 02-16-2018, 04:56 PM
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Might consider cerakoting the metal parts after the rust cleanup. Could be a nice way to hide the pitting and a different kind of look, and do use the Big 45 as suggested, it will absolutely amaze you and make you think you're some kind of amazing gunsmith. They work great. Good luck with your project.
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Old 02-16-2018, 09:11 PM
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Might consider cerakoting the metal parts after the rust cleanup. Could be a nice way to hide the pitting and a different kind of look, and do use the Big 45 as suggested, it will absolutely amaze you and make you think you're some kind of amazing gunsmith. They work great. Good luck with your project.
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Looks like a great project. I'd certainaly get it shooting. As for the external rust don't use steel wool. Get a Big 45 pad. These are amazing on removing surface rust while not damaging whats left of the blueing. Just use it with oil and gently work it over the surface. Good luck and post some follow up pics.

Ordering direct is the cheapest. http://big45.com/
Plus 3 on the Big 45 pad. Amazing what you can accomplish with it. After cleaning it up try OXPHO-BLUE from Brownells, also amazing how it will turn out if you follow their instructions.

https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...-prod1072.aspx
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Old 02-17-2018, 08:08 PM
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try some jb bore paste inside the barrel to see if it will clean it up before you do the barrel liner. the outside do the normal clean up and re-blue. you might not get it to new looking condition, i would go for a good shooter and have fun with it.
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Old 02-17-2018, 08:18 PM
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try some jb bore paste inside the barrel to see if it will clean it up before you do the barrel liner. the outside do the normal clean up and re-blue. you might not get it to new looking condition, i would go for a good shooter and have fun with it.
I agree with this. You can take some strands off the Big 45 and wrap them aroung a brush and try scrubbing the barrel. I'd soak the barrel with Hoppes #9 or Kroil or even Liquid Wrench for a week. Muzzel down so it' doesn't get in the action or wood. Then scrub. You may clean it up enough so it shoot ok for plinking. jmo Good luck
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Old 02-17-2018, 08:20 PM
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Nice gift. Love the projects.


You can reline these barrels yourself pretty easily. But as someone says, clean the bore good first. It may shoot really good yet. I have seen some pretty good sewer pipes that still shoot OK.

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Old 02-19-2018, 04:31 PM
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Thanks for all the info. I have received a quote to reline the barrel, $350 + $38 shipping. I have ordered the cartridge guide and will be ordering some Big 45. I am more than likely going to sleeve it, but I would like to get an idea of what the metal looks like before I dump a bunch of money into it. More to come as we move forward.

Jason
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:53 PM
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Thanks for all the info. I have received a quote to reline the barrel, $350 + $38 shipping. I have ordered the cartridge guide and will be ordering some Big 45. I am more than likely going to sleeve it, but I would like to get an idea of what the metal looks like before I dump a bunch of money into it. More to come as we move forward.

Jason
I wouldn't dump any more money into it. It will be a great shooter, but remember you can use Standard Velocity ammo. The bolt will crack if you use High Velocity.
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