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Old 02-27-2019, 01:13 PM
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Greeting folks,
I have been doing a bit more serious shooting and have come to the conclusion that I want to experiment with some Eley Tenex......I have been using 40 grain in other of my 22 ammo choices and would stay with it. Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the round nose and flat nose as far as accuracy ? What is the reasoning behind the two bullet types ? Of the different types of Tenex is there one with more quality or accuracy ? Your help on my trying to better understand this would be very much appreciated......
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Way back in the dark ages S&W made the 32SW then the 32SW Long and they had a round nose. Colt's made their version called the New Police, a ballistic twin but not a copy, and theirs had the 'harger hitting' flat nosed bullet.
I have heard that some hunters with the 22LR say the flat nose is better for 'transfering the energy' to a critter than the rn which can 'pass through' or the hp which can do too much damage. Paper wont care, and the itty bitty flat isnt going to cut a cleaner scoring hole like a wadcutter either.
Does any match ammo have a flat nose?
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A couple years ago, I went to a National Benchrest match to pick up a Anschutz 1710 DHB. WONDERFUL, most helpful group of people you will ever meet! Some really nice stuff there. BY FAR, what I saw being used was regular Eley Match Black Box. Not much Tenex at all. Guy I bought it from had used it in a 100 meter Sporter class. He won his last match with it, but the class was done away with.

I stayed the entire day, and even got to do some shooting at the end. Again, the nicest people to hang around with... almost all shooting black box.

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...And not to forget that the flat nose cuts nice, clean perfect holes through paper targets..
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Round nose, flat nose, it made no difference in my results.
Black box, red box, gold box, blue box, silver box, again didn't matter.
What did matter was the quality of the batch.
Not the label on the box, the quality of the cartridges in the box.
Lot testing is the only method that gives you an edge in obtaining predicatable results.
Buy random bricks and all y'er doing is rolling the dice
and hoping you are lucky enough to have been sold a decent lot.

Local shooter sent his rifle to the Eley center in Texas.
Results at 50 meters ranged from 12 to 24 mm outside to outside.
That was the 40 shot computer generated aggregate.
All Tenex, just different lot numbers.
That's how much variation there is in what's supposed to be Eley's best.

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I know....its a new millenium, and we are a global society....but I just dont think in 'silly little mm's'
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Oooops, sorry cranky.

Call it just a hair under half an inch to a touch under an inch for the 40 shot aggregates.


That better?
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Now THAT I can visualize
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We are the U.S. of A., we are number 1, and we don't do metric.

We will lose our lead one day with this kind of attitude and that day will come soon enough.
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Great information folks...Thanks for your input....I guess I will try some of that high priced spread and go with the round nose....

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The "flat nose" developed by Eley was an improvement over the precision of the round nose. It's still around and others are now copying it. I can guarantee if it wasn't better, the benchrest crowd would have dropped it by now.

Eley Match! I've tested a lot of Eley Match and only two of Eley 10X. One thing I look at is the velocity spread in a lot. If it doesn't have less than 30 FPS spread it will never meet my criteria for precision. But by the same token, just because it does have less than 30 FPS spread doesn't mean it will be a good lot.

Here is a picture of some of my long time chronograph results. The first number is the average speed of 30 rounds minimum and the next number is the velocity spread. These were either shot from the Anschutz with the original barrel or the new Shilen barrel.



When Eley Team was sorted from Eley Match (which was sorted from Eley 10X) I had one very good lot. I've had some outstanding lots of Eley Match and hold the local record for a 5 shot group at 100 yards of .330 shot in competition. For the record, it seem that Lapua Midas and the sorted Center X have very good V spreads and relatively uniform velocity average. My current favorite lot is the first lot of Midas+ listed.

The two lots of 10X I bought were bricks and I sold 9 of the boxes in both lots as neither were any good.
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We are the U.S. of A., we are number 1, and we don't do metric.

We will lose our lead one day with this kind of attitude and that day will come soon enough.
I have heard it said that the US doesn't have a trade gap, it has a design and manufacturing gap, as we refuse to use metric for almost everything.

In the boatshop, we used millimetres as a standard, because the guys could get all the way to 32'-9" by remembering only 4 digits, and the accuracy was to 1/25th of an inch. Why remember 31' 5-7/16" when it is 9587 mm?

Buying a metric rule in the States? Not so easy, but they are out there. Even metric stick-rules.
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Oh, the trials and tribulations of measuring!
Inch or metric, cubit or......
And measuring groups?
Outside to outside, inside to inside, center to center or how about outside to inside?
When I worked in the Japanese and Italian motorcycle shops metric was fine because we worked with it everyday, went to the HD shop and it was all decimals.
It has been said that it doesnt matter how educated you are, if you go to another country where you dont speak or read the language YOU are illiterate.
Measurements are a language, know the one for the place yer at and get on with the business at hand
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