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Old 11-16-2019, 09:50 PM
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Can anybody tell me how a kidd light weight or kidd ultra light shoots at 50 yds with match ammo? Like center x or sk rifle match. Wondering how it would fair against my cz 457
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I own several of each of the Lt. Wt's and UL's.. I see NO DIFF in the 2 barrels with the same ammo out to 50 yds... take your pick but the Lt. Wt. has TKidds Guarantee of accuracy... and just barely heavier. While I do not own your Bolt rifle I can say buy a Kidd barrel and be surprised in a real good way Lasers...
I rarely use better than SK Std Plus.. no need.
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Can anybody tell me how a kidd light weight or kidd ultra light shoots at 50 yds with match ammo? Like center x or sk rifle match. Wondering how it would fair against my cz 457
I have 3 18” LWs and 1 16.5” ULW. All shoot well, one I’d call exceptional.
The 16.5 ULW & 2 of the 18” LWs shoot groups in the low .3s to mid .2s.
The exceptional shoots low .2s and .1s, with an occasional .0X.
I would have to give a slight edge to the 18” LWs for consistent accuracy, but weight, barrel length and stock profile certainly also play a role, and I need more trigger time with the 16.5” ULW to give it a fair accounting as it’s relatively new to the stable.

I have 4 CZ 452s. My Kidd’s run neck and neck with them- I have a 452 Varmint that is outstanding, and only the best of my Kidd LWs barrels can run with it, and it’s pretty much a tie.

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Old 11-17-2019, 05:36 PM
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Mr Gunner what is your set ups like. Would love to hear a little more about this please. Stocks, scope, ammo, bag or rests etc

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Dr. G has more cool stuff than I do.. But, here is some input for ya...







Mechanical rests or bags.. both work.. informal comp. usually no limitations. At home and the range I really prefer a mechanical one pc. rest.. EZ to carry.. But the Caldwell Rock BR Comp is my 2nd fav. with a nice rear bag.
Ammo = As good as I usually shoot is SK Std. Plus unless the Fellas want to shoot for money. Then I step up a tad... KIDD barrels will polish some Turd ammo's to a real decent level. Shoot what ever you can pocketbook.
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Old 11-17-2019, 08:12 PM
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Those at 50 or 25 sir?
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5 at 50 .. around here ya don't want to post 25 yd. groups.. commonly laughable.
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I so agree. When somebody shows me a group at 25 I am like you waisted ammo.
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Mr Gunner what is your set ups like. Would love to hear a little more about this please. Stocks, scope, ammo, bag or rests etc
1.) Ruger Custom Youth stock, Gunnerbedded w/Kidd rear tang, A683 Watts 3/4” Flange pillar, VQ escutcheon & Devcon 10110
Tactical Machining a Receiver with integrated rail
Kidd 18" Black LW barrel
Kidd Silver bolt
Kidd Black Viton CH/Assy
Kidd single stage TG @ .87lb
Bench Optic:
Weaver Classic V24 BallisticX on Leupold QRW rings
Offhand Optic: Bushnell TRS 25

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https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forum...504&highlight=







Tacsol Vantage/Kidd LW
Tacsol Vantage Forest Laminate
Full Kidd barreled action, Devcon pillar and rear tang bedded.
20 MOA rail
Kidd Lt wt 18" .920 barrel
Kidd silver scalloped bolt
Kidd charging rod & spring
Kidd single stage @ .87#
Offhand optic:
Mueller Quickshot
Bench Scope:
Mueller 8.5-25x44AO Tactical scope on Leupold QRW rings, low

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https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forum...=477781%5B/url








50 Yards- (Different stock)




100 Yards:








PWS Raptor Blue/Gray Laminate stock, Pillar & Devcon bedded
Sling & studs, Bipod rail
Kidd Classic w rear tang 20 MOA rail
Kidd Scalloped silver bolt
Kidd charging rod & spring
Kidd single stage @ .98#
Kidd 18" black LW barrel
Offhand/Position optic: Ultradot 6 on Warne quick detach rings, low
Benchrest optic:
Weaver Classic V24 BallisticX on Leupold QRW rings

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https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forum...=489351%5B/url






50 Yards



I just HAD to post this one.... A fly landed on my target. I tracked him until he walked far away from my groups, then shot him...



100 Yards





Kidd 16.5” ULW/Custom Pharr clone silhouette stock
Full Kidd Classic action
Kidd Classic w rear tang 20 MOA rail
Kidd Scalloped silver bolt
Kidd charging rod & spring
Kidd single stage @ 1.5lb
Kidd 16.5” black LW barrel
Scope- Bushnell Engage 3-12x40AO on Warne Maxima QD rings, medium

I have no pics on this one as it is a build in progress. Right now the action is in a custom try stock that I got from my good friend George a.k.a. Azguy. Once my daughter has had a chance to shoot it enough, we will send it back with measurements and he is going to cut a custom Pharr clone silhouette stock out of highly figured walnut.

Groups have all been shot from either a bipod and Protektor 13B Tall Bunny ear or most often a Caldwell Rock BR windage adjustable front rest that was worked over for better precision, added shims, bearings and washers everywhere I saw the need.

Ammo is all SK- Magazine, Rifle Match and some Lapua CenterX and Midas Plus.

Edit- just realized there’s some Eley Team in there-
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I have a Kidd ULW Classic that I assembled from components. Wears a 3x9 Clearidge. I use it for hunting and pest control, spends a lot of time in my ATV rack.

To your question, I have a 54 Anschutz and a Sako Quad that are my tiny group guns, so I don’t hold the Kidd to the same standards. I shoot my Kidd suppressed, usually with HV ammo. CCI 36 gr Mini Mags group .5” - .75” (@50) on average. Groups generally get ruined by a flyer. Center X groups just under a half inch without the flyers. I am sure it would do better with a higher power scope and more ammo experimentation, but not it’s purpose. Great rifle, probably my favorite rimfire.
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Old 11-18-2019, 01:09 PM
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Umm WOW. Kidd needs to put you on the payroll. Amazing builds and groups
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Old 11-18-2019, 05:30 PM
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Gunner and Chaser I am not pass buying a super grade but will never change the barrel out. I just like the fact that Kidd beds them. But I am flirting with victor titan stock as well. Kidd only has the magpul. What are your thoughts on the stock for all around use. I must say the pro varmint is about my favorite and the titan looks very similar. Is there a need tongi super grade or just classic slip fit.? Thanks
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Gunner and Chaser I am not pass buying a super grade but will never change the barrel out. I just like the fact that Kidd beds them. But I am flirting with victor titan stock as well. Kidd only has the magpul. What are your thoughts on the stock for all around use. I must say the pro varmint is about my favorite and the titan looks very similar. Is there a need tongi super grade or just classic slip fit.? Thanks
The bedding should have no impact on your barrel decision. The action is bedded, but the barrel is free floating, so it makes no difference which barrels you might be switching around. That's not to say that every barrel will shoot equally well, just that the action bedding will be a constant with any barrel.
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Gunner and Chaser I am not pass buying a super grade but will never change the barrel out. I just like the fact that Kidd beds them. But I am flirting with victor titan stock as well. Kidd only has the magpul. What are your thoughts on the stock for all around use. I must say the pro varmint is about my favorite and the titan looks very similar. Is there a need tongi super grade or just classic slip fit.? Thanks
IF.. IF you want to wring out that last .02ish in your groups bedding may.. MAY be important BUT I have done at least a dozen without bedding them and they are sub-MOA out to 100.. lesser barreled rigs may and usually do need bedding, I just have found that I don't need to mess with it when I use KIDD goods...
So.. if you are hung up on another stock I say buy all the KIDD goods you can afford and drop it all together in whatever stock you prefer.. now.. if it's a Titan you still can do the rear tang.. and that's good... If assembly of a KIDD has you worried buy a Barreled action.. Do indeed buy the Single Stage or the 2-Stage trigger.
Summation.. Bedding is not mandatory IMO... Quality Barrel and Boolets and Trigger are mandatory.
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I have 3 18 LWs and 1 16.5 ULW. All shoot well, one Id call exceptional.
The 16.5 ULW & 2 of the 18 LWs shoot groups in the low .3s to mid .2s.
The exceptional shoots low .2s and .1s, with an occasional .0X.
I would have to give a slight edge to the 18 LWs for consistent accuracy, but weight, barrel length and stock profile certainly also play a role, and I need more trigger time with the 16.5 ULW to give it a fair accounting as its relatively new to the stable.

I have 4 CZ 452s. My Kidds run neck and neck with them- I have a 452 Varmint that is outstanding, and only the best of my Kidd LWs barrels can run with it, and its pretty much a tie.

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