How will a stateside plant affect the cost of Cz's?Will cost remain the same be cheaper or cost more?
Same to be said about quality control.Not that Cz is the best.
Now one more question.Would you prefer your Cz made in the states or in the old country?
I don't know how to answer all your questions so let me put this out there.
I do not buy Sig Sauers that are newer than year 2002. I don't buy new Marlin's and definitely do not buy any new Remingtons. Frankly, they suck and the quality is terrible. New Smith and Wesson revolvers just do not command the prices they are asking. The roll marks and fit and finish of the ones i've purchased just are not up to what the old Smith produced.
I do not mind paying more for quality. I want perfection in all that i do. I demand it from myself in my business and I require it from the places i spend my money.
I was under the impression that the 457 was produced here in the US. I do not own one yet. I've owned a few CZ handguns and was satisfied with them. So, if CZ maintains top shelf quality and its made in the USA then its a win!
New Smith and Wesson revolvers just do not command the prices they are asking.
I recently obtained a new Model 66 .357 Combat Magnum with the 2-piece barrel. Fit and finish is excellent. It locks up as tight as and shoots as good as any vintage Model 27 or Python I have ever handled. I don't care for the lock, but it is pretty benign. The only changes I made were a Wolff spring kit and Hogue grips.
I recently obtained a new Model 66 .357 Combat Magnum with the 2-piece barrel. Fit and finish is excellent. It locks up as tight as and shoots as good as any vintage Model 27 or Python I have ever handled. I don't care for the lock, but it is pretty benign. The only changes I made were a Wolff spring kit and Hogue grips.
I'm pleased that you had good luck. The model 63 i purchased was just horrible. I even picked the best out of 5 at my LGS.
I'm pleased that you had good luck. The model 63 i purchased was just horrible. I even picked the best out of 5 at my LGS.
Thanks for sharing,
I share your pain. I returned a 63 to S&W under warranty that was replaced with my excellent 66. The 63 had a bad forging and the frame was cracking around the forcing cone.
i would prefer to leave things, as is. Not saying that the current CZ can't be improved, but I do think there is a significant chance that going with a CZ made in the U.S. could make things worse. No thanks.
I think the having a CZ plant in the United States will
be a bonus for all of us with what gets made here. The $64 question is is this just going to be an assembly plant or this going to be a full-fledged manufacturing plant. Either way I think we're going to is going to be good for us. They might be able to do special runs that we've been asking for for years. Time will tell.
I find some of the negative comments kind of disturbing. Not saying they are wrong but if americans can't make a good gun then what can we do well? Also think we need to give them a chance before rushing to judgement.
Some BMW's are made here. Can't afford one but I don't think they went skidding downhill.
I think with proper training there is no reason to believe the rifles coming out of the usa can't be good. I doubt the typical CZ made in Europe was put together by master craftsman.
Lastly, my 457 varmint was made in the CZ republic, I bought it in April so don't know where current ones will be made.
Is there any doubt that "Made in USA" quality CAN rival (or surpass) any in the world? Ya' just have to be willing to pay for it. It's the broad market forces we create as consumers and our demand for lower prices that prevent it from being the norm.
I live very close by the new site. I share the same concerns on quality going downhill. I have seen very few things increase in quality when changes are made such as this. On the other hand I have hope that it will remain the same or improve in some regard. I’m also hopeful they need some sort of medic or nurse on site
I live very close by the new site. I share the same concerns on quality going downhill. I have seen very few things increase in quality when changes are made such as this. On the other hand I have hope that it will remain the same or improve in some regard. I’m also hopeful they need some sort of medic or nurse on site
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I'd be happy if they would just implement a QC program!