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Old 06-03-2019, 03:30 PM
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I love this little round, but the last two boxes have had a total of 4 duds. Three in one box, and so far one in the other.
Each round has a very hard strike from the firing pin on it but none fired.
Anybody else had trouble with this ammo?
Batch # M11Q04
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Old 06-03-2019, 05:21 PM
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Yep.
It's CCI.
They still use the manual method of installing primer in the brass.
Often leaving bare spots in the rim.
Extract, rotate 120 degrees, try again.
Usually goes bang on the second try.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:50 PM
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No Velocitors, but I had a 15+ year old Stinger dud last week . Only one Iíve ever had . But the price sticker on the box was around $2.97 . Kirby
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Old 06-07-2019, 06:47 PM
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Batch # M11Q04
I have two box's of Velocitor's and they're lot # M12Q04. I wonder what the "2" means? The following quantity of some amount from yours must be? Enough money for these rounds for there to be a miss in quality control. As mentioned give them a turn as there may be a void of priming material in their rims. If turning them twice to a clean spot on their rims doesn't fire them off they would then likely have no primer at all, like Remington's seem to have once in a while.
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What sort of firearm? Before you blame the ammo, maybe the rifle/pistol?
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:23 PM
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Bite your tongue, don't you know that you can't criticize CCI, only complaints about Remington will be heard !!!
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I shot a few in my Rem 597 semi before it was brought to my attention they were too robust for Remington's taste and there was a warning about hyper velocity ammo in it. Lotsa smackdown in my modeling clay ballistic testing. I should give em a go in my CZ UL and see how they fare as its the only firearm I own they'd be safe in. No duds for me.
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Old 06-08-2019, 06:23 AM
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Bite your tongue, don't you know that you can't criticize CCI, only complaints about Remington will be heard !!!
I LOVE Remington ammo. Thunderbolts and Golden Bullet are 2 of the best brands out there.
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Well, I'm an long time CCI user but have to admit I've had more duds from them the past two years than in the previous thirty years.... They need to tighten up their QC as its seems to be slipping.


Oh and this is one reason "smart" folks don't carry Rimfires for self defense...
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Oh and this is one reason "smart" folks don't carry Rimfires for self defense...
I can't believe that thread has so many responses and has gotten the traction it has. Foolishness! Just Foolishness! Oh guess I'd better also!
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Well, I'm an long time CCI user but have to admit I've had more duds from them the past two years than in the previous thirty years.... They need to tighten up their QC as its seems to be slipping.


Oh and this is one reason "smart" folks don't carry Rimfires for self defense...
Or use Eley hv hp for SD.
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Last week I shot 11 rounds of Velocitor that I pocket carried in my NAA mini for a year. All 11 rounds fired and were in a nice group. I carry 6 rounds in a fuse box in off side pocket. These rounds were fresh ammo when started to carry, but I will try to change out more often.
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Old 06-11-2019, 12:41 PM
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I've been shooting CCI Mini--Mags, Stingers, and Velocitors since 1983. Had my fist failure to fire about a year ago. Only one, and it was a Mini-Mag. Can't say the same for any other rimfire ammo...

Nonetheless, it shook my semi-confidence in CCI rimfire ammo as an alternative self-defense ammo, even though it was only one in the past 35 years of shooting it. Mr Murphy has a tendency to show up at the least opportune times...

Still, given the percentages, one FTF in 35+ years of shooting is pretty darn good! I have, BTW, had a FTF from decent quality factory centerfire ammo, so I'm not slamming CCI. Just be prepared if you are relying on it for self defense to know proper failure procedures. It will always happen at the worst time, per Mr Murphy.

I won't shoot anything other than CCI ammo, given abysmal results from Federal and American. I have found what works in ALL of my rimfire firearms reliably, and that is CCI.
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Old 06-11-2019, 03:13 PM
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I am in contact with a CCI rep (via email) about this lot number. He said the lot number is about 10 years old. Which is about right. I've had it in a surplus ammo can in an AC house for about that long. I've got 5 boxes from the lot number. This recent box I opened, 9 out of 16 failed to fire. I even turned one and shot it again, no bang.

I then put 5 cylinders (8-shot revolver) full of Federal 525 Bulk and they all went bang. (although a few sounded weak they still fired.)

I kept the ammo of the failed Velocitors and sent photos to the CCI rep. They seem very interested in what is going on with this lot#. So am I.... I've got 5 boxes of the stuff.

Not bashing CCI. I've shot plenty of Stingers and Mini-mag without failure.

PS Somebody in an above post asked what kind of firearm I was using. S&W Model 63 revolver. Marlin 981t rifle. Both had Velocitor FTFs. Both are striking very nice deep strikes.

UPDATE:
CCI wants to take a look at the misfired ammo and 100 rounds of the unfired boxes with the lot#. They're sending a UPS truck around to pick it up. Will keep y'all posted.

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