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Old 11-17-2019, 12:44 AM
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Scope mount for a Remington 511



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My father recently gave me the first firearm he ever purchased. It's a March 1947 manufactured Remington 511, which he bought in 1948 when he was 16 or 17.

My eyes don't see open sights too well anymore, so I'm looking to put a scope on it. But, I don't want to drill and tap it.

It already has 10-32 holes tapped in the curved portion of the receiver.

I have seen some older 3/4" scope mounts that fit on the curved portion of the receiver, which would probably be more period correct, but finding a decent 3/4" scope of sufficient power may be an issue.

Now, I've read several threads about using Weaver #43 mounts and using JB Weld or Shoe Goo or Lock-Tite Black. But I'm thinking about one of these mounts: https://www.brownells.com/optics-mou...687-42827.aspx

Does anyone know if this mount will work on a 511?
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Old 11-17-2019, 03:32 AM
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What's more important to you?

Mounting a optic so you can adequately shoot your hand me down rifle?

Get a proper rail or two piece mount drilled and tapped.

Or having whatever collector value on a not rare $100 rifle remain intact?

Then leave it alone.

I can tell you for a fact you only live once and the holes it's got already have devalued it greatly.
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Old 11-17-2019, 04:54 AM
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I tried the loctite black max with weaver #43 bases and the scope fell off after about 50 shots..I cleaned well with acetone and even scuffed up mounts ..it was a 513T I had sporterized. I spent $20 for a tap and drill bit and tapped receiver, scope will stay put now. Your choice , but i think the two weaver mounts look much better and less clunky than the side mount. Enjoy the old rifle, good shooters .
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Old 11-17-2019, 04:57 AM
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What's more important to you?

Mounting a optic so you can adequately shoot your hand me down rifle?

Get a proper rail or two piece mount drilled and tapped.

Or having whatever collector value on a not rare $100 rifle remain intact?

Then leave it alone.

I can tell you for a fact you only live once and the holes it's got already have devalued it greatly.
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Old 11-17-2019, 05:49 AM
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since you say it is already D&T'd for a side mount..measure the hole spread spread and see what's available..maybe the havlin Mossberg mount or several others out there..good luck
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Old 11-17-2019, 08:30 AM
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What Christine said. If already d&t go with that set up if possible. Hate to see a receiver looking like swiss cheese. Find a local gun shop and take it in and see if they can get you a set up for it if you are not getting the results you need.
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Old 11-17-2019, 08:41 AM
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I always favor leaving old guns alone. You might try some weak reading glasses to tune your eyes so they you can see the sights adequately, it's worked for me. There are lots of older .22s that are grooved for scope mounting, most can be had for a few hundred dollars. I'm having no difficulty finding old Weaver 3/4" scopes, they work fine on vintage .22s. B4s and B6s, four and six power, perfectly good and proper for the old rifles.
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Old 11-17-2019, 01:18 PM
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How many 10-32 holes? You can probably find an old Weaver side mount to fit. Seems like they used one with a model number like N1 weaver made an N series of mounts for the vintage rifles? Ebay is your friend.

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Old 11-22-2019, 03:02 PM
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Two 10-32 holes, 1-5/8" apart.

The Havlin mount won't work. It's designed for a receiver that is .950" in diameter. Mine is .850".

I can find various Weaver N mounts on eBay, but the pictures on most of them leave a lot to be desired. From reading elsewhere, it appears the N2 or N3 are the proper mounts, but those only accept 3/4" scopes. And used 3/4" scopes of questionable quality? That's another problem.

Since the Havlin mount won't work, I think I'll go ahead and get bases that allow me to mount a 1" tube. Probably a 3x9 (I did say I don't see very well anymore).

I've seen reference to both the Weaver #16 and the #43 bases working. According to Brownells, and the Weaver chart, #16 fits the Remington 514 if already drilled and tapped (#12 if not already D&T) and the #43 fits the 510, 512, 513S, 513T and 521T, but nothing shows for the 511. Those are all for the rear mount. All of them use a different front mount except the 514 using the #12 both front and rear.

So, I'm confused. What works, and what doesn't?
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Old 11-22-2019, 06:37 PM
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You need a pair of Weaver #43 for both front and rear on 511. Or any 510-521. I have drilled and tapped several 510 and 511's that were in less than collector class condition. They are so common that I don't worry about collector value if they are not in top condition.
As I recall there were some 7/8 and 1" weaver side mounts? Said to be very rare.

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Old 11-22-2019, 08:06 PM
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Excerpt from Weaver Chart

740, 742 & 760 (two piece base pair sold in Matte) 48472 62 49715 48948
4, 6, 74, 76, 7400, 7600, 750 93 49714 48793 48914
- Matte 48915
8 & 81 7
10, 11, 12, 34*, 341*, 510, 511, 512 & 521T 6 43 42 2
12A, 121 with 3/4" Diameter Barrels 18 13 2
121 with 13/16" Diameter Ba

Note that the 511 uses a #43 for the rear one, and #42 for the Front one. It has a note that a Gunsmith should do it. I'm not sure, but it's possible that the different front mount should be put on the barrel rather than the front ring of the receiver. The 513T calls for a #43 rear, and a #44 Front! The receiver rings are the same diameter, so if you mount them both on the receiver, 2 #43s should work.

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Old 11-22-2019, 10:05 PM
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2 of the #43's. The 42 is for barrel mount and I suspect 44 is barrel mount on a 513. The 511 receiver is the same diameter both front and back. I have a project going to refinish a bunch of 511's for some family members. Probably 6 or 7 now with the 43's. Works perfect.
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Old 11-23-2019, 09:50 AM
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Thumbs up Thanks!

You word it MUCH better than I!
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Old 11-26-2019, 04:55 PM
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2 of the #43's. The 42 is for barrel mount and I suspect 44 is barrel mount on a 513. The 511 receiver is the same diameter both front and back. I have a project going to refinish a bunch of 511's for some family members. Probably 6 or 7 now with the 43's. Works perfect.
Hushkaboom -

How do you go about centering the scope mount bases so they are level?
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:02 PM
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cpaspr I tried to answer your email but for some reason It could not send. Maybe because it was connected with the RFC system? Check your PM's

I don't have a good set up but I clamped the action up against a flat piece of metal with the bottom sitting flat on a table. I had the action parts remove for rust bluing so that made it easier. I then used a Vernier caliper to mark the center line of action. Center punched for holes. Put drill bit far into chuck so it is not as flexible. Then clamped in vise on drill press and went for it. The action lower sides are relatively square so that helps. I am not a gunsmith so I just hope for the best. I wonder if a dowel drilling jig would work to center the holes? I have not tried that yet.
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