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Old 03-30-2020, 08:54 AM
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I can't get that pic of the crown out of my head...
It is indeed rough. But the action sounds good, and the stock can be tuned easily. Sounds like a good project gun that has excellent prospects of being a real shooter.
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Praying to the 'Release Gods'

Ye-haw last night. I don't care how many times one does this, It's a nerve racking proposition every time. Will crack it open this afternoon

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Threw it in the freezer for an hour, and it popped right out. Caught one small void in front side of the barrel lug, not bad enough to worry about going back and filling. Will fire up the Dremel again tomorrow, let the in-letting fun begin

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Nice tool in function and form. I have used a Newway valve seat cutter, this is made by Newway for Manson same bits and pieces







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Nice crown! If I had that tool I might not be able to resist recrowning every gun I own.
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That bedding job looks nice so far.

Fear of welding the action to the stock
holds back many people, me included.
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Fear of welding the action to the stock
holds back many people, me included.
Use a practice gun; apply Kiwi shoe polish 2X and buff it both times. 2nd time is in case one misses a spot the first time. Not a job to be rushed IME.
My Rem 700 with a big recoil lug took me 20 min. to 'bump' the action out. I got nervous with that one and the air was blue.
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Little bit more to finish the in-letting, and barrel floated to the front of the bedding.

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It is what it is, and there would be no way I would pass it down the road to the next guy with out full disclosure. Unfortunately I'm a shooter who collects a few, not a collector who shoots a few. Making this No 4 shoot may hurt the value, but I was in to this piece right enough to make it what I want, if that makes sense. As I was cutting the barrel last night, I was thinking how perfect it would be at 18 inches threaded for my Form 2 home built ....

Anyway, made some progress on it last night. Hope to address the stock issue today.

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Nice tool in function and form. I have used a Newway valve seat cutter, this is made by Newway for Manson same bits and pieces







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I love the result that you got with that crowning/valve-grinding device. I've been inspecting my bores and crowns lately with my new borescope from Red China and while I don't have any that are visually bad, but few if any of them look as perfect as as yours there. Have you crowned other 22 LRs and if so, did you notice any difference in accuracy or consistency if they weren't noticeably bad?
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67rschev,
I love the result that you got with that crowning/valve-grinding device. I've been inspecting my bores and crowns lately with my new borescope from Red China and while I don't have any that are visually bad, but few if any of them look as perfect as as yours there. Have you crowned other 22 LRs and if so, did you notice any difference in accuracy or consistency if they weren't noticeably bad?
Nope, this was the first time using the tool and was bought specifically for the Lux. Good tool in function and form. With correct careful use, the pilot will never damage the bore and I will use it again when needed with out a second thought. I cant see doing any re-crown and ever hurting the precision, a good chance that it may shoot better, especially if the crown looked like the one on this 456 I had pictured.

A bit of an update, I did get the bedding in-letting completed and got it to the range a week ago. Only a few groups shot, and I ran into a magazine issues again. Looks promising, but I have very high expectations this Model 4 will have to live up to. I wont post a token picture of a cherry picked group or two. For real evaluation on precision, a minimum of 5 or 6 consecutive groups in a target set should be examined.

Magazine that came with the Model 4 is in need of tuning, I was shaving lead on load up so I quit after only a couple groups. The feed angle is way too steep, and sometimes the bolt wouldn't even pick up the next round. Feed lips needed to be opened up a bit. For comparison here is a new CZ factory magazine side by side with the one that came with the Lux

Shaving lead never good for accuracy



Missed pickup on a round



New magazine on the left, Model 4 magazine on the right steep angle of the nose of the round, would crash into the top of the breach. You can see the following rounds nose on the suspect magazine



New magazine on the left, Model 4 magazine on the right rear view showing feed lip difference and feed angle


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...New magazine on the left, Model 4 magazine on the right rear view showing feed lip difference and feed angle

Looks like that one may have been dropped or took a lick of some force.
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