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Old 10-01-2015, 08:36 PM
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A guy at the range today was shooting a full auto 1022. It would empty a 10 round mag in less than a second. I asked what alterations were done to make it full auto, and he said the bolt and trigger were different from a stock 1022. I had no idea such an animal existed. When it fired, it sounded like someone ripping canvas. What do you guys know about this 1022? Thanks
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Old 10-01-2015, 08:50 PM
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Look up a Norrell trigger pack for the 10/22. It's a full auto trigger group that also uses a special counter weighted bolt that prevents "bolt bounce"....

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Old 10-08-2015, 02:39 AM
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Look up a Norrell trigger pack for the 10/22. It's a full auto trigger group that also uses a special counter weighted bolt that prevents "bolt bounce"....

Do all/most full autos use a counter weighted bolt like this?

Seems like there'd be a good market for bolts like this among "race gun" enthusiasts. Never have seen any offered though. Just assorted types of "bolt buffers".
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Old 10-08-2015, 09:58 PM
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Do all/most full autos use a counter weighted bolt like this?
No. Most machine guns are either closed bolt locked breech (e.g. M16), or open bolt blowback (e.g. Thompson, Mac/M11, Uzi).

The 10/22 kit is unique that is it closed bolt blowback operated. The weight in the bolt is designed to prevent the bolt from bouncing, by slamming into the bolt just after the bolt closes. This is to make sure the bolt is closed when the hammer comes forward. If the bolt is not closed, the hammer won't get a full/good strike.
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Old 10-11-2015, 01:17 PM
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The Norrell trigger pack does lock the bolt closed , With the detent in the front of housing does it not?
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By detent do you mean the silver lever stickup up from the trigger group?

I'm not sure, but believe that would be the disconnector, basically the switch that releases the hammer when the bolt is fully closes.
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Old 10-17-2015, 01:32 PM
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No. Most machine guns are either closed bolt locked breech (e.g. M16), or open bolt blowback (e.g. Thompson, Mac/M11, Uzi).

The 10/22 kit is unique that is it closed bolt blowback operated. The weight in the bolt is designed to prevent the bolt from bouncing, by slamming into the bolt just after the bolt closes. This is to make sure the bolt is closed when the hammer comes forward. If the bolt is not closed, the hammer won't get a full/good strike.

One other gun that is a little bit similar is the FN P90. It has an anti-bounce weight on the bolt, looks a lot like the Norrell bolt. The P90 has an action that is delayed blowback, the barrel recoils for a short distance with the bolt.
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Norrell Patent

Does anyone have the patent number on the norrell trigger pack? I understand the ball detent, anti bounce weight, and possibly the trigger pack internals are all patented as per Small Arms Magazine. I have done searches on the net have come up with zero.
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Old 10-01-2015, 08:55 PM
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I ran into one at the range last year. The guy shooting it said it was a commercial model (aftermarket, not Ruger) intended for a Georgia (?) LE agency's female officers. It sounded like the idea didn't pan out and he got his from a Class III dealer for a really good price.

No idea what the internal mods were, but that gun ran really well considering the overall reliability of rimfire ammo.
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O.K. guys, thanks. This is a new one on me.
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Old 10-01-2015, 09:16 PM
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As if

As if it wasn't hard enough already to keep a 22lr rifle fed.....
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Sounds like it would be a blast to shoot.
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I ran across a video of one in action recently. I had to skip to the action sequences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_RoMXz3Opg
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