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Old 10-08-2019, 10:44 AM
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Thoughts on Sling Swivels and sling



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As a long time lurker, I wanted to post my first question. I recently picked up my first Cooper as a used 57m lefty at auction that looks as though it may be unfired. I intend to shoot this, not make it a safe queen, but having said that, I'd like to protect it how I can. Does anyone have good experience with sling swivels / slings that aren't likely to mar the wood through regular use? A look through the search tool didn't give me any easy answers over the last 10 years. What are you guys/gals using and what do you like?

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Old 10-08-2019, 09:40 PM
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Some of the fixed style sling swivels dont allow the sling loop to touch the stock. Off the top of my head I know CZ stocks and sells for a reasonable price fixed style sling mounts that won't mar your stock. A look thru Brownells or Midway would offer some more ideas. The old Willams Guide Sling only has a single brass button and depending on the spacing of the swivels the button is out of the way. And there is a "Montana Sling" that uses a woven or braided leather knot to adjust the sling length. I dont think it uses any metal hardware at all. Just a couple of ideas.
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Old 10-09-2019, 10:27 AM
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Why not use quick detachable swivels, release the swivels and remove both them and the sling when you don't need it, doing that leaves only the studs on the rifle and no chance of damage.
The only time I have seen stocks marred from the sling swivel is from fixed ones flopping back and forth when they didn't have a sling in them. I don't think I have ever marred a stock from the sling itself.

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Old 10-09-2019, 12:17 PM
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Haven't actually used it, but the sling that I have in my collection for use on a custom rifle, is nylon with Uncle Mike's QD swivels. I think that it is a Butler Creek product.Don't know if it's still offered.
Avoid anything with brass keepers.

ps: I like the idea of swivels with a 180 degree limit feature, but with QD swivels and a permanently attached nylon sling, I see no stock damage occurring.

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Old 10-09-2019, 01:58 PM
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Does it currently have sling swivels?
If not, and if you don't want to drill the stock, get the barrel attaching type of front sling swivel ( Midway has them ) and then remove the bottom screw of the butt plate and screw in a regular stock type swivel and the stock will be unaffected. Works like a charm for a sling.
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Old 10-09-2019, 03:42 PM
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Does it currently have sling swivels?
If not, and if you don't want to drill the stock, get the barrel attaching type of front sling swivel ( Midway has them ) and then remove the bottom screw of the butt plate and screw in a regular stock type swivel and the stock will be unaffected. Works like a charm for a sling.
A Cooper 57m will have posts.
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Old 10-09-2019, 04:13 PM
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The fixed style swivels as sold by CZ and others limit the amount of movement of the sling loop to about 180 degrees. The loop does not and can not touch the stock. Not all fixed style swivels limit the amount of movement but some do.
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Old 10-09-2019, 06:18 PM
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New England Custom Gun (NECG) has the proper fixed swivels in 7/8 inch and 1 inch width's and 3 different screw types. There quite a bit more than the CZ swivels though.
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Old 10-09-2019, 06:18 PM
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My 57M JSR has the fancy swivel bases, with two screws each.

To me sling swivels on a rifle that will never have a sling is about as useful as tits on a bull. Less so as they get in the way of occasional bags.

If you're going to use a sling, you have great advice above.

I personally grind it off and refinish it if it's the two screw type, and if it's a stud I replace it with a lens head screw...Tom



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Old 10-10-2019, 12:52 PM
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My 10/22 DSP came with fixed one inch swivels. I use a DIY nylon web sling with Delrin buckles. The metal can't touch the wood so long as the sling is in place, and the buckles are a distance away. One reason I didn't change to QD ones. My DSP is ten years old without a mark on the stock.
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Old 10-10-2019, 06:18 PM
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Get the metal quick release mounts. Make sure your sling has some padding near the swivels and that should keep the metal from bottoming out. I don't worry about it that much and haven't noticed any major scars in my stocks. I like the super slings made of nylon and leather. Some I have came with better swivels than others so beware. I really like the Allen $13 slings from Walmart as a cheap quality sling. They have metal quick detach sling swivels and a decent rubber/nylon pad for your shoulder. Best bang for your buck with slings right now.
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Old 10-11-2019, 02:00 AM
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Thanks for the replies guys, I appreciate it. I realized after I posted that I screwed up....I didn't post a pic of the rifle. 😉 Here's hoping that I can get some similar accuracy.
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:30 PM
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As someone has mentioned, the Montana sling is in my opinion the finest sling on the market. I put them on all of my rifles, great sling!
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Old 11-09-2019, 05:31 PM
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I have damaged stocks with slings, years ago. Now, I will remove metal screws and replace with ball glove leather laces.
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