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Old 07-06-2019, 08:36 AM
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OK.....local shop had this come in....at first the owner said its a .22 ok....but after looking at it, there isnt anyway for the breach to open...looking at the area where the hammer impacts, there is what looks like a black powder nipple with a hole thru it....( can take a pic of it mon)...the forearm is glued on and butt stock attaches with a screw into bottom of grip....being a sucker for all things odd and unusual in the .22 world.....i love it....i couldnt find any mention of such a creature.....the legend if i remember right is pre 1915....

thanks for any help input
al

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Old 07-06-2019, 12:50 PM
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OK.....local shop had this come in....at first the owner said its a .22 ok....but after looking at it, there isnt anyway for the breach to open...looking at the area where the hammer impacts, there is what looks like a black powder nipple with a hole thru it....( can take a pic of it mon)...the forearm is glued on and butt stock attaches with a screw into bottom of grip....

the legend if i remember right is pre 1915....

thanks for any help input
al



The I.D. markings that Stevens used were:

1864-1888: J. Stevens & Co. (Chicopee Falls, Mass)
1888-1915: J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. (Chicopee Falls, Mass USA)
1916-1960: J. Stevens Arms Co. (Chicopee Falls, Mass USA)
1960- now: J. Stevens Arms Co. (Westfield, Mass USA)


The pic, showing the crudeness of the rear sight install, and the absence of the cut through the side of the action for the barrel unlocking mechanism, makes me think that it's either a muzzleloading clone of the Stevens design or an aftermarket conversion of a Tip-Up to a muzzleloader.



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Old 07-06-2019, 04:33 PM
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thanks for the input.....to me it looks like it was cast as one piece....or it has some thick paint on it....its at the shop hope to take better pics mon
thanks again al sends

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Old 07-14-2019, 08:46 PM
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The I.D. markings that Stevens used were:

1864-1888: J. Stevens & Co. (Chicopee Falls, Mass)
1888-1915: J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. (Chicopee Falls, Mass USA)
1916-1960: J. Stevens Arms Co. (Chicopee Falls, Mass USA)
1960- now: J. Stevens Arms Co. (Westfield, Mass USA)


The pic, showing the crudeness of the rear sight install, and the absence of the cut through the side of the action for the barrel unlocking mechanism, makes me think that it's either a muzzleloading clone of the Stevens design or an aftermarket conversion of a Tip-Up to a muzzleloader.



Those are a couple of beauties! I'm looking at a Model 43 Diamond at my FFL friend's place, quite nice condition. I just spent $1215 there today, a JM Marlin 1894 Cowboy .45, and a Savage 99 300 Savage takedown, 1940 production. But that little Stevens is cute and I want it. We shall see...
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Old 07-18-2019, 12:41 PM
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Al,
Years ago I had a Kruger 98 cap pistol that fired paper caps and had a hole where the hammer hit so the gas from the cap could go down a small bore. There was actually a metal barrel of .12 caliber that allowed you to load a #2 bird shot in the bore and the cap would fire the bird shot out and you could do some crude target practice. I was wondering if your new prize had an actual bore in the barrel and a paper cap might be used to either just fire down the bore or maybe shoot a piece of bird shot or a small pellet that was loaded via the muzzle like the little pistol I had?

Below is a picture of where the little paper cap was placed -- just wondering if it is at all similar to your area where the hammer hits?


Some Stevens single shot rifles and pistols were marked as shown below but usually on the barrel -- don't know when they stopped.

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