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Old 07-09-2013, 12:15 AM
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You're not really comparing apples to apples. One is a centerfire and one is a rimfire. The suggested price of 17 WSM is about 15-20$ per 50; .223 can be had from some sources for under $6 per 20 when available. If you plan to reload, it gets cheaper to shoot .223 once your reloading equipment is paid off.
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:39 AM
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You're not really comparing apples to apples. One is a centerfire and one is a rimfire. The suggested price of 17 WSM is about 15-20$ per 50; .223 can be had from some sources for under $6 per 20 when available. If you plan to reload, it gets cheaper to shoot .223 once your reloading equipment is paid off.
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Does anybody here have experience with the .17-223 or .20 Practical, or maybe the .19 Calhoon?

It sounds like maybe one of these would be the IDEAL middle ground, splitting the difference between the two, and picking up the benefits of more speed and less report/recoil, yet have the advantages of loading up or down as necessary.

As for myself, any hunting type shots would be under 150 yards or so, so only picking up accuracy and energy delivery, as I don't need the distance.

Thoughts?
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Old 12-15-2019, 05:30 PM
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1 of the benefits of the WSM is the sound and the lack of disturbance to other game. Trajectory with the 20gr bullet is also similar to alot of factory 223 55gr ammo.

Another huge advantage with the 17WSM is the lack of copper foul and potential long barrel life.

No idea how long a wsm barrel last but with low pressure and stuff all powder the things should last forever lol

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Old 12-15-2019, 05:45 PM
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Pretty old thread... if the OP hasnít chosen his poison, I doubt he ever will lol. Iíd have split the difference and gotten a 204 Ruger myself.
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Old 12-15-2019, 06:45 PM
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Nope when choosing between the 223 and 17wsm you split the difference with a 17Hornet.
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Old 12-15-2019, 07:06 PM
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wkd may be along soon to suggest an 18.5/223

Huh, ha - joking. I cannot help it.
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Old 12-15-2019, 07:07 PM
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Nope when choosing between the 223 and 17wsm you split the difference with a 17Hornet.
17 Hornet is what I was thinking too.

But in all fairness, other than they both go bang, there is pretty much nothing comparable between the 17 WSM and a 223.
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Old 12-16-2019, 12:52 AM
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yeah your right the 223 has heaps more noise and recoil and with 17WSM ammo at less than half the cost its a no brainer.

If your shooting bulk ammo the Hornet is gunna foul heaps quick and cost you heaps of time in front of the press......
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Old 12-16-2019, 01:23 PM
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Nope when choosing between the 223 and 17wsm you split the difference with a 17Hornet.
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Old 12-16-2019, 01:25 PM
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WSM

Get both. I have both. Here are my observations. Factory 223 ammo that is match grade accurate and able to shoot sub 1/2 moa at 100y is not $10/20. It is more like $20/20 or $1/rd. If you reload 223 you can get even better accuracy for about 25 cent per shot (I used to be able to do it for a nickle). Factory 17WSM is also going to be about 25-30 cents per rd. But you don't have to reload it, you don't even have to pick up the brass. The 17 WSM is not as accurate as my best shooting 223 bolt action Remington but it is better than all of my AR15's (I don't own a match grade AR). 0.500-0.800 inch at 100y is typical for the 17WSM and my 17HMR. The HMR may be slightly more accurate and consistent since it have the heavy bbl and my WSM is the pencil bbl. My WSM has had lots of accurizing done to it. None of it made that much difference. Here is the big time selling point for the 17WSM. Since I got mine four or five years ago, I have totally stopped shooting my centerfire 223 bolt rifles. I have also stopped hunting with them. The 17WSM is light, handy, versatile and will kill a squirrel at 80y or a coyote at 200y. It is accurate enough to kill a ground hog at 300y. Light enough to carry all day. Keep the bbl clean and you will love it. If I was shooting hogs or deer or going to war, I would take the 223 or bigger. Otherwise for long range plinking or casual hunting the 17 is a fun and effective choice. A boyds laminated stock makes the plastic rifle look and handle like a real rifle too.

I added three pics. My rifle, a 200y group that is about 1.3" and a 90y group that is about 1/2". My 223 will do 1/4" at that same distance.

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Old 12-16-2019, 05:26 PM
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JG26 irish your experience is bang on mine, however I got the HB 18.5 green mountain Ruger. Ive had a few 0.3MOA 5 shot groups but the norm is 0.5-0.8MOA allday long.

Ive just sold a Tikka 17HMR cause ammo was more expensive and my WSM has the same energy at 150yds that the HMR has at the muzzle.

I dont own a 223 atm but I just dont see a need for 1 when the WSM does a similar job out to 200yds. i will be selling my HB 218Bee and 22-250 also, can tse them ever getting used either. If I want a bigger gun Ill grab a Grendel

It seem there a plenty of people with opinions on WSMs and they dont own one
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Old 12-16-2019, 05:40 PM
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We need a zombie thread emoji.

It's getting harder to get a good basic 223 in a bolt gun with the rise in cheap ars. Putting one together now that will kinda go the other way, bolt action 16.5 inch barrel, red dot. I hope plan to just shoot tula 223 steel case that's really cheap up here. But my goal is more plinking and brush hunting varmints than target.

The 17 wsm will still be the go to whistle pig annihilator. After many moons reloading it's lovely to not scour the ground for brass.
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Old 12-16-2019, 09:10 PM
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I'd wait to see if anything interesting is announced in January...

What .218 Bee are you getting rid of?
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Old 12-16-2019, 09:30 PM
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Eric I hope that's heavy industry foreshadowing..... a 20wsm would be the knees of the bees for me.
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