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Old 12-06-2019, 10:53 PM
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Bad Hunting Mentors but Good Hunting Buddies



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I have had a long experience with a bad hunting mentor. If you are interested in reading a long story, continue reading.

This person was my uncle. I was 16 and for the first time ever, Hunter Safety classes were mandatory for all new hunting licence's in my state. I always went hunting with my other uncle, who actually had good hunter ethics and was somewhat knowledgeable about hunting in general. He taught me how to be safe with a gun and how to shoot. We hunted squirrel and rabbit. One x-mas a long box was under the tree. It was later discovered to be a .243 .. I thought that next season it was time to deer hunt.

This uncle didn't deer hunt much. His idea of hunting was to step out of the truck, walk 50 yards or so... and sit there. This worked for him, but wasn't my cup of tea.

Roy. Roy was the uncle this post is about. Roy is the half brother to the uncle mentioned above. He hunted with a marlin 30-30 lever action with Tasco 3x9. He hunted for 10 years and never bagged a deer. He brought home many "give a aways" or fresh road killed deer. He was the only person local that I could hunt with so I was kinda stuck with him. He smoked while he hunted which I don't like to do. I never saw him sight in his gun. He always knew where the deer would be but most of the time I saw more action far away on my own. I started to wonder about my hunting buddy.

I'm a very curious person like most people are. Even as a teenager I liked to research the things I'm most interested in. This time in my life it was hunting. I started to ask him questions that I knew the answer to already. Here are some examples.

Roy, you just missed that deer and it was only 40 yards away, are you sure that gun is sighted in? --- Yea, the guy at the store where I bought it 4 years ago said that it was set from the factory. I don't want to change it, because its set where its supposed to be. ----- OK... I sighted in my .243.. I know it wasn't where it needed to be.

Roy to me: So do you know why its bucks only season right now? (um.. no why?).. because all the does have babies in November and if you kill a doe, that means 1 or 2 babies are going to starve. OK... at least ole Roy got 1 or 2 correct. Never in November though, and doe season is right next to buck season, sometimes running concurrent in some counties so these deer must raise them fawns pretty quick eye?

Roy bought a muzzle loader kit one year. He put it together. There was a defect in the nipple where the cap fits. I spotted it right off after the first "no fire", but he insisted it was ok. The hole leading through the nipple wasn't drilled all the way through. This gun would not fire. All it needed was a new nipple. He removed the bullet with a puller several times along with soaking it in water to try and neutralize the charge. (This is no lie) Roy took this "non firing" gun hunting during muzzle-loader season.

Sometimes I wonder why he would do this. I wouldn't leave the house with a non firing gun. Why?

This past season I decided to visit Roy. The last time we hunted together was 1990. He will turn 76 this spring hopefully. He still had that old Marlin 30-30. Hardly a scratch, same old Tasco 3x9. My .243 has been gone for years. I asked to borrow it which he gladly said for me to take it. I took it home and zeroed the scope. It wouldn't hit paper at 50 yards. I hunted all season with that gun. I went out a few times but was "lazy" and didn't feel like walking much. (just like first uncle mentioned lol)

It made me think back about how Roy pointed out to me for the first time what a rub and a scrape was, how he would go anywhere I wanted to go hunting whether or not his gun would even fire or not. Roy wasn't the best mentor, but he was a pretty darn good hunting buddy.
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Old 12-06-2019, 11:01 PM
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Most of us can be both good and bad examples
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Old 12-06-2019, 11:29 PM
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I think we all have someone that's family or friend we find out aren't all that we think. It was a learning experiences and no one was hurt. It is what it is.
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Old 12-06-2019, 11:49 PM
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BIL pukes at the sight of guts and has never killed a deer in his life. He does kill close to a 12 pack deer hunting tho and somehow manages to stay warm sucking down that many cold ones. He goes out every year though but now alone since his beer drinking father died. Would I hunt with him? Shirley you jest. : Back in my good hunting times with generous limits I gave him a lot of venison which he loved.
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Old 12-07-2019, 05:39 AM
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Yeah, we have hunted with the best and the worst. I never hunted a second time with the worst if they got my ire up.
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:55 AM
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It made me think back about how Roy pointed out to me for the first time what a rub and a scrape was, how he would go anywhere I wanted to go hunting whether or not his gun would even fire or not. Roy wasn't the best mentor, but he was a pretty darn good hunting buddy.
There you go. I will take a good friend over all else.
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Old 12-10-2019, 05:44 PM
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I guess that I am a very sentimental person. I have a young son that likes to hunt. I try my best to be a good mentor to him and it makes me think back when I was his age. I try to pass on the things that I know were good, maybe at times silly and superstitious in nature.... family hunting traditions so to speak. He already knows that there is no reason to hunt with a gun that won't shoot but I doubt he knows why daddy goes hunting with him where ever or whenever he can, or why daddy takes a cheap air pistol "hunting" while he takes his .410 ...

passing on the hunting tradition.
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Old 12-10-2019, 11:52 PM
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Some days i wish i had a mentor...i picked up on hunting later on in life dad never took me hunting when I was younger
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