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Old 09-14-2017, 01:34 PM
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Personally, I am not married, have no dependents, paid off my mortgage, and have a pension and railroad retirement coming in each month. I am 70 y/o, and if I don't spend it now, when will I ?
I often buy with the thought of selling later and making a small profit which goes towards new gun purchase. It's my hobby... I don't gamble, smoke or drink, so it's my only vice. It could be worse.

WOW - looks like you could be a wealth of information on these guns. From an accuracy standpoint, what is your factual opinion on the accuracy of the Volquartsen Scorpion vs. the Ruger Hunter? The Scorpion is roughly $1200 and the Hunter is roughly $630 (+ another $121 for a VQ accuracy kit). I am wondering if there is an appreciable difference in accuracy between the two to justify the pricepoint. I'm considering the Hunter model 40160 with the bigger grip.

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Don't worry about the grips

Greetings...

Don't worry too much about the grips. They are all easily replaced.

I want a Comp to fill out my small collection. When I was shopping for a Target a few months ago, I saw a lot of different Hunter models with all kinds of grips. All of which were either available on the guns, or the grips were on ShopRuger.

Sadly the only style not for sale separately were the wooden thumb rest grips which are standard on the Comps...

I end up putting rubber Houge thumb rest grips on all of my Ruger Mk's anyway.
I fell in love with them years ago. For some bizarre reason they are still back ordered on Mk 4 grips that I ordered around last Xmas...
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:51 PM
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ALL the semiauto firearms on the approved list in CA expire in 2018.
No. The handgun roster is renewed annually, so every year it looks like every gun is going to be deleted, but most manufacturers renew most of them for another year, every year...

BTW, if want a pistol that's not on the California roster, then it's as simple as acquiring one out-of-state and bringing it back to California.
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Not to highjack this thread but I came here looking for feedback on the Competition model I have inbound and noticed a few references to aging eyes and their difficulty focusing on sights and targets simultaneously enough to permit accurate shooting at typical handgun distances (25 yards or thereabouts). I have a cure that doesn't involve any modification to your guns but will fix the problem with all your handguns. Address the actual cause - your eyes.

I'm 71 and when my damaged shoulders could no longer handle mounting a trap shotgun a hundred or three times a day without a lot of pain, I went back to my rifles and handguns only to discover that I could see either the sights of a handgun OR the target well enough to shoot accurately. I went so far as to put my bifocals on upside down, which allowed me to see the sights in perfect clarity but the black bull of an NRA 25-yard pistol target looked like a blurry football standing on end. I tried reading glasses of varying powers but had the same result. I am a contributing editor for Shotgun Sports Magazine and mentioned this phenomenon in a column.

I then received an email from Dr. Howard Morgan of Morgan Sports Optical in Olean, New York. Dr. Morgan told me that he could make glasses that would permit me to see both my sights AND my target with clarity if I provided him with my vision prescription, whether I am right- or left-handed and the distance at which I customarily shot my handguns. I didn't believe him but provided him with the info he requested. In a week or so, a changeable lens frame and six lenses arrived, one left lens and five right lenses and right lens #5 did exactly what the doctor promised!

I don't know what his charge for that service would be as he did it for me gratis with the hope that an outdoor writer would do exactly this - tell others. But it would cost you nothing to contact Morgan Sports Optical - www.morganoptical.net - and ask. All you have to lose is some time and you have an enormous amount of enjoyment to gain!

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Old 07-22-2018, 05:58 PM
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Dr. Morgan is usually at the ATA Grand in Sparta. I've bought my Randolph Rangers and lenses from him. Good folks.
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Getting the Jones for a semiauto rimfire, and while I still miss the Buckmark I sold years back, I am giving the Mark IV a good look this time round. How do these models stack up against each other? I'm strictly a range shooter, out to 15-20 yds, which is all my aging eyes can deal with in a handgun these days. Any feedback is welcome, but I don't want to start a urination contest, just looking for experienced opinions on each model. Both have great looks, and I would reckon they are both very accurate. Does one offer more than the other for paper punching? Thanks.
Shooterman,

A little late to the Competition vs Hunter question...not sure if you have one or the other yet...or Both!?! Maybe my experience might help others...!

I had a MkII Competition slab sided many moons ago. It was very accurate, but I always found even with the nice OEM thumb rest grips, the forward balance became tiring to hold a consistent POA. Adding the VQ Volthane rubber grips (with heel-finger-thumb rest) helped, but eventually my oldest pried the MkII from my hands!

Fast forward (just 20+ years) to today...own a MkIV Hunter with the nice Target grips (#40160). Even though there is no full thumb rest on these grips, feel the forward heaviness of the Hunter's 6 7\8" fluted barrel is less than the Competition with the OEM TR grips (son still has the old MkII and doesn't like the Volthane grips). Overall balance of the Hunter is better in my hands but then, it could all be simply in the ergonomics of the grip panels?!

FWIW, since "I had liked" the VQ Volthane grips on the MkII, I invested in the VQ blue laminated grips for the Hunter and feel virtually no forward heaviness At All! Overall balance and holding a steady POA has really gone up. I'm shooting tighter groupings and feel less wrist fatigue.

Believe the Competition is just as accurate (son punches bullseyes all day long), but for me, is not as comfortable a shooter (or looks as good) as the Hunter I have now!

Just my .02 cents worth!

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Get both!

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Get both!
Double-Take Time!?!

LH, Do YOU have a favorite yet?

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Get both!
Double-Take Time!?! <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="EEK!" class="inlineimg" />

LH, Do YOU have a favorite yet? <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Confused" class="inlineimg" />

Ted
Not sure yet, I just dropped a volquartsen kit in it, with firing pin and extractor.

I today took the rear v-notch blade out and put a target square notch. Like so many others. The white line was off center.
(Looking at the truglo fo set at tandemkross)

So as they now are, they are set up about the same.
I’m going to try to get to the range this weekend and put them both on paper against each other.

So no favorite yet. I’m craving getting more. I’ve had mkI thru MkIV. From the old tapered 6 7/8 target and 512’s to the 10” MkII, I even bought my oldest daughter (She’s 40 now.) a pair, a MKII Government and a stainless 512. When she got married.
I told them a family that shoots together stays together!

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Old 08-15-2018, 03:26 PM
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Greetings...

I have both. They both wear the same $30 red dots. Both wear Hogue thumb
grips. Only real difference is that the grips on the Comp. are made for the Mk4.
I made the ones on the Hunter from the Mk3 grips.

Either is more accurate than me. Operationally they are identical.

I'de been lusting after a Comp. for decades, yet had purchased 2 Hunters before
ever getting one. I don't think you can go wrong with either. In the field, I don't
know that you could tell much difference. They are both "heavy" and I've never
had one fail to bag a bunny...

I think I like the iron sights on the Comp. a bit more than the ones on the Hunter
when shooting paper, but I love the Hunter's sights more when actually hunting.
Since putting red dots on, the iron sights have now become virtually irrelevant.

Both eat everything I've ever tried in them, from 30 year old Remingtons to weeks
old Wally-world bulk. Standard to hyper's, both seem to eat anything well. CCI's
seem to be their favorite. Red dragon Mk 3 mags or silver Mk 4 mags, neither seems to care.

Visually, I like the fluted barrel more than the slab side, but that's just me.

Your mileage may vary...
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Old 08-15-2018, 05:19 PM
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I just made a very similar post in another thread! Pistols are So close to each other it’s really down to looks. And I kinda like the Hunter better too.

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