Marty, great shooting! I love it when someone shoots aperture sights! My favorite thing to do!
Have a few questions though...
Did you shoot those with a scope and tuner installed? I ask as you mention in one post that a certain lot had some issues when using a tuner. Were you referring to the target shot or are you saying with a scope and tuner in general?
I know it's harder for me to shoot the A23 with a scope than with apertures. Actually, I stink when trying to shoot an A17, A23 or A25 with anything but apertures. Too much space in the x ring I suppose...
That really is some nice shooting if shot with apertures. But, why are you comparing a factory rifle when shooting aperture sights to a custom barreled rifle shot with a scope? It's a completely different animal.
And I'm not trying to be a goober, but you and I both know most of these factory rifles (40x, 52D, Anschutz 54 action) rifles with decent aperture sights and someone who knows what to do can blow out the x ring on an A23 at 50. In most cases, those same groups won't cut it when you spread all 20 shots out over an ARA or IR target. Yes, sometimes they will, but heck, sometimes any of use do well on an ARA or IR target
Not trying to put you down. I really do enjoy seeing anyone shoot aperture sights. But not sure what you're trying to show. Other than not needing a tuner to shoot a target that if shot on an IR target would possibly be a 246 or 247. Maybe a bit better, but still...
Now, if you want to show what that same rifle would do sans tuner on an IR or ARA target, then go for it. I could dig around and show piles of targets shot with factory barreled 40x, 52D and Anschutz rifles shot with both apertures with scopes , in factory configuration, no tuner and scoped, or scoped with tuners. Have shot a few decent targets with those factory guns and no tuners. Both with apertures and with a scope in formal BR matches. Even won a thing or two along the way. But I'm not stupid.
Not saying you're right or wrong or even indifferent. Just don't understand what you're trying to prove showing how your factory gun shoots with apertures and no tuner. It's a different target, shot a completely different way than what a BR target is shot. Am sure you have shot a pile of 200/20x targets on an A23 that would translate to a mid pack or below finish on a BR target. If not, I can send you a pile of them!
Yes, I've shot some aperture targets that would translate to very good scores on a BR type target. But, those little bitty shots that wash out to the edge of the x ring and barely hang on...they wouldn't be 10's on a BR target.
Just wondered what your point actually was.
Thanks
Kenny