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Old 01-01-2004, 05:36 PM
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Please Help me Identify this pistol



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I have this pistol on loan from my girlfriends father. He asked that i take it down and clean it. I can't seem to figure out how. I looked breifly around but have come up empty handed.


On the slide it says "COLT Automatic CAL.22 Long Rifle"

On the barrel it says "COLT'S PT.FA MFG. CO. HARTFORD, CT U.S.A" than has patent dates.

There is a serial number on the grip just under the trigger guard.

I can take more pics if necessary.

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Old 01-01-2004, 05:43 PM
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i did find this

http://www.coltautos.com/woodsmans/1...arget38918.jpg


Seems to be it, now i just need soem diagrams to take it apart.
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Old 01-01-2004, 05:51 PM
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Yea, it's a Colt Woodsman, which is highly valued amoung Colt and rimfire shooters and collectors. The early models especially, in 98% condition command $1000
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Old 01-01-2004, 06:02 PM
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Cool Original Woodsman, 1st Series

thetoolman,

You have a very valuable Colt Original Woodsman, 1st Series...! !

Look here for disassembly instructions, parts lists, exploded views and values:
Bob Rayburn's Colt Woodsman Site [The Authority on Woodsman]

I am pleased that you took the time to inquire before attempting the disassembly, as the pistol can be damaged by an improper disassembly...! !

Original Woodsman, 1st Series, Exploded View < < Link

Disassembly begins here with the "assembly lock plunger" (on top of slide) < < Link


I hope this helps....! !


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Old 01-01-2004, 07:00 PM
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Thats great! What a neat find. I am almost sorry i fired it today. Man can it shoot! I was hitting small apples at 50yrds with no problem. I will have to do some more reading.

Any one know of a place to find the production date based ont he serial number?
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Old 01-01-2004, 07:43 PM
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Arrow Caution: Standard Velocity Ammo Only

thetoolman,

There is a good chance this pistol was made before 1931, and all pistols below SN 85,000 should be used with Standard Velocity ammo only.....! !

IF the SN is above 85,000, it most probably has the 'new' mainspring housing for Hi Vel ammo...! !

Sorry, but I should have included the above in my original Post...


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Old 01-02-2004, 09:37 PM
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Re: Original Woodsman, 1st Series

Let me emphasize how important this step is:Then with index finger of right hand, push down assembly lock plunger (on top of slide,) and while holding pressure on plunger allow slide to move forward to closed position

I haven't broken down a Colt, but the procedure seems to be very close to the older Hi-Standards. If that button is not pushed down during disassembly, the pistol will not function correctly upon reassembly. It appears to catch the spring and holds it in place ala the HS.

Ask me how I know it won't function...

If the Colt has a different reason for button pushing, then disregard and I'll crawl back into my hole.
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Old 01-02-2004, 09:40 PM
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My father in law from my first marriage had one, a target model with the heavy barrel. Loved it would pay well for one like it. One of the finest pistols ever made last time I saw one at a gun show it was $600. Stainless so I think it was a repro. If it had the heavy barrel I still would have bought it.

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Old 01-04-2004, 05:09 AM
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Colt .22 handgun

"thetoolman,"

Hello. I'd have to agree with the others in saying that the handgun in question does indeed look like the Colt "Woodsman" model. Colt also made a "Pre-Woodsman" model between the years 1915-27. Overall, the "Woodsman" series of handguns, if you include the similar "Pre-Woodsman" model, were made by Colt over a span of 62 years, all the way up to 1977 with Colt's "Woodsman 3rd Series.

The "Woodsman 1st Series" (so marked on the receiver) was manufactured between 1927-47 with approximately 112,000 produced. If you do not see "Woodsman" marked on the receiver, it may very well be the "Pre-Woodsman" model.

I am not a Colt expert or collector, so to properly identify this handgun--unless you've come up with a better, more readily available source of info--you might try contacting the Colt Firearms Company and give them a description of the handgun along with any pertinent markings, numbers stamped on it, etc.
The "Pre-Woodsman" and "Woodsman" series are very desirable (collector status) and command some respectable prices. If so desired, Colt can (after looking up information specific to this handgun) send you a Colt Archive Letter of authenticity detailing the history of the firearm which, if sold at some later date, can add more to its value. Colt's website can be reached at:

http://www.colt.com/CMCI/home.asp

On this site, you'll be able to also find out about acquiring schematics for the firearm. Or you might just give them a call at 1-800-962-2658, and tell them what information you are trying to find out. Their business hours to call are: Mon.-Fri., 10:00 AM-12:00 Noon & 1:00 PM-5:00 PM, EST.

Another source of schematics (once Colt has properly identified the particular model for you) would be Gun Parts Corp., formerly Numrich Arms. In general, they specialize in firearms parts and schematics, and I see that they do list both parts and schematics for the various Colt "Woodsman" series on their website:

http://www.e-gunparts.com/

Specific to schematics for the Colt "Woodsman" series of handguns on the Gun Parts Corp. website, you can also go directly to:

http://www.e-gunparts.com/schematics.asp

The address for Gun Parts Corp. is: 226 Williams Lane, W. Hurley, NY 12491. They have a toll-free order line at: 1-866-696-7424, or the alternate order line is: (845) 679-2417

Hope this helps. Good luck!

Best regards,

"akrimfire"

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Old 01-04-2004, 05:38 AM
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Re: Colt Woodsman ammo

Also, just as Big Mike stated, the use of standard-velocity ammo would be called for if, in fact, the handgun has been manufactured BEFORE 1931, i.e., the "Pre-Woodsman" model as well as the first three years of production (1927-1930) for the "Woodsman 1st Series" model. NOTE: Colt did offer, after 1931, a conversion kit to modify the older (pre-1931) models to high-velocity ammo use.

In 1931, Colt transitioned to the use of high-velocity ammo in these handguns and, in doing so, used a new style of mainspring housing to accomodate this change. This change to high-velocity ammo in the "Woodsman" model started to show up in handguns with serial nos. starting at (approximately) 80,000; the full phasing in being completed by (approximately) serial no. 85,000. All later "Woodsmans"--including all of the ones made after World War II-- are made to handle the high-velocity ammo.

If your handgun is either one of the above models, and particularly if it is of pre-1931 manufacture, I would use only standard-velocity ammo until you can get a Colt specialist or expert to examine your gun to see if, in fact, it has gotten the above-mentioned conversion kit installed.

Regards,

"akrimfire
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Old 01-04-2004, 05:06 PM
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Nice pistol. I would shoot it sparingly. If you really need to take out large numbers of attacking "fruit" or stop invasions of hordes of "cans" I would definitly get myself a ruger or browning. Of which Im sure you already have. The pistol while fun to shoot is an extreme collectible.....just my 2 cents
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