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Old 12-23-2008, 12:35 AM
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Raw bits, Because I never plan to use the match front, rear sight, sling and forhand stop that came with the rifle, Mac credited me $295.00 for those items. The rifle came to $1100.00+$20 for shipping and $100 for the 20 MOA scope base and installation. Mac also agreed to swap out some of the five round mags that came with the rifle for some ten rounders. I just turned 63 years old and will only be shooting ground squirrels, P dogs and targets.
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Old 12-23-2008, 03:59 AM
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Russian 7-4 Biathlon/Tactical rifle

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... I never plan to use the match front, rear sight, sling
and forhand stop that came with the rifle, Mac credited me $295.00 for those items.

The rifle came to $1100.00+$20 for shipping and $100 for the 20 MOA scope base and installation....
Any pictures of your rifle?
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:12 PM
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AOM,

I have not received the 7-4 yet. I probably will not receive it until after the holidays. The 20 MOA rail is being installed.

I also do not have digital camera yet. Trying to decide which one to get. I want one that has great resolution and can be used for close up shots. I plan to wait until after the new year. There may be some great buys available after Jan 1. I also purchased a Video Professor training video to learn how to use the camera and post pictures.
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Old 12-24-2008, 09:13 AM
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... I also do not have digital camera yet. Trying to decide which one to get.
Professor training video to learn how to use the camera and post pictures....
Are you looking for a point-and-shoot or an SLR type?

My wife owns a Sony DSC-W200 point-and-shoot
that I love to use ... no-longer in-production.

And a Sony DSC-F717 Cyber-shot that I use ... no-longer in-production.

I have taken most of the pictures I have posted with the DSC-W200 ...
much less complicated, easier to use and it gets the job done.

The Sony replacement for the DSC-W200 is the
Cyber-shot® Digital Camera DSC-W300
that I have been very tempted to buy for my wife
so I can have exclusive use of the DSC-W200.

Whatever you buy, also purchase a wide angle lens and a telephoto lens.
You will not regret the additional lens.

Fortunately for me, I have a very computer and digitally literate wife.
She is my reluctant tutor.
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:21 PM
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Went to our monthly match on Dec.3, shot 7-4 with the same lot# of EPS as
last match and came in 2nd.






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Off-Hand Shooting with Biathlon Sling

rawbits ... I noticed when you were shooting off-hand
you didn't take advantage of the biathlon sling.


Shooting Off-Hand without sling.
Off-Hand Shooting with biathlon sling.
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Yes, I used a cuff sling, you just can't see it from that side.
It's attached to the hand stop and then hooks to a arm band.
I even used it while shooting out of the trailer.
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:18 PM
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Biathlon and Target Rifle Sling

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Yes, I used a cuff sling, you just can't see it from that side.
It's attached to the hand stop and then hooks to a arm band....
U.S. Olympic biathlete Jay Hankken fires prone
with his arm sling securely attached to his firing cuff.


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When it is time to fire, biathletes hook an arm sling made of webbing
to a firing cuff on their upper arm.
This connects to the rifle, and provides stability.
How to Use and Adjust the Sling
For Target Rifle Shooting

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(Here is a quote from a book Small Bore Rifle shooting)
The gunsling is of little or no advantage in standing position.
I also just dusted off 3 more of my 3P books & they all said the same thing.

Thats always been my understnding when shooting in the standing
position also......But what do I know I don't compete in 3P shooting.

Thats looks like allot of fun...Rawbits.

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Old 01-08-2009, 12:06 AM
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In biathlon events the sling is not used during standing shooting. It is legal to do so, but nobody does it.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:20 AM
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I want to participate. How, when, where do I start. I have the 7-4 rifle with Burris scope.

Please PM me.
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...and came in 2nd.


MOOOVIN ON UP...

Well, it looks like you are representing us Russian rifle owners nicely. If you keep getting better you'll be entitled to double rations of Cabbage soup....maybe a half of a potato as well.

How'd you like getting hot brass in your face from the 10/22? Then again, you can blame the hot brass in your eye for losing you first place.


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Old 01-08-2009, 01:26 AM
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Hello All,

I'm new to the forum, but being a biathlete myself (as my SN suggests) i thought i'd confirm what PixelPaul wrote. the sling is only used i prone shooting... when your breathing hard and your heart rate is up, the sling doesn't help your offhand shooting enough to be worth using.

I have a IZH Baithlon rifle, as well as an anschutz 1827 "fortner". both are nice rifles, but there is a definite difference between Russian craftsmanship and German craftsmanship!
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:56 AM
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Hello All,

I'm new to the forum, but being a biathlete myself (as my SN suggests) i thought i'd confirm what PixelPaul wrote. the sling is only used i prone shooting... when your breathing hard and your heart rate is up, the sling doesn't help your offhand shooting enough to be worth using.

I have a IZH Baithlon rifle, as well as an anschutz 1827 "fortner". both are nice rifles, but there is a definite difference between Russian craftsmanship and German craftsmanship!
Fit and finish are noticibly different, but how do they shoot side to side? Are they equally accurate or is one clearly superior? Besides finish, how are the acitons smoothness to each other?

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Old 01-08-2009, 08:09 AM
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In my opinion the anschutz fortner action is faster and smoother to operate than the IZH... as far as how they shoot, I've never shot them side by side off a bench, but I have shot nickle sized 5 shot groups at 50m from the sling supported prone position with both of them. The Anschutz however is more consistent in low temperatures, which is important for biathlon.

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