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Old 05-20-2011, 05:52 AM
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Got the Izzy back from the Smith....



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Whoaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!

Had a IZZY with what I thought was a decent two stage trigger. Least that is what I thought after I had tweaked and adjusted it from a four stage grit encrusted corrugated smooth thing they called a trigger pull when I got it....

Every body recommended I take it to Bills Guns in Park Lake....said that the guy does magic with bullseye guns and had done some IZZY's before.

Now I have shot a lot of pistols. I have shot my teammates guns, I thought I knew what a good trigger is.........Till NOW!!!!!!


Took the IZH 35M to the smith after the winter league was done. Told him to take his time, didn't have any matches in the next couple months. No Hurry. Wasn't expecting too much, I mean the trigger was really good and how much better from really good can you get anyways? And when you get to this level, everybody knows its the loose nut on the trigger that is the weak part of the equasion.


Picked it up last night.....OH......MY.......GOD!!!!!!!


That unassuming genious of a gun smith took a 2 1/2 pound two stage trigger with a little bit of creep and 1/8th inch of travel and turned it into a sub 1 pound two stage trigger with about a hundreth of a inch of travel. I mean, I might have to heavy it up for the rules. I thought I knew what breaking like glass ment until now!

Loaded up with five rounds and took aim at about 25 yards. first shot went off when my finger was just "finding" the trigger like I did with the old trigger. Got a bit more control of the second shot, and then the next three I put in a neat little triangle about 1/2 inch in diameter. Still got to re zero the gun, and I got to read up on the rules and figure out what trigger pull is legal.

I will post more range reports when I get a few more rounds down range.


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Old 05-20-2011, 06:32 PM
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nice
what kind of "class" will you shoot with it ?
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Old 05-22-2011, 07:17 PM
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Hey timbertoes

shooting indoor bullseye up here in michigan.. track me down if you are a victom of a self inflicted lobotomy and find your self round here in wintertime, we got a spot on the line for ya.

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Glad to hear you pistol is working well.
Reference: IZH-35M Doubling and Tripling problems ... crankythunder
Any contact information for Bills Guns in Park Lake?
Other IZH-35 owners may be interested in knowing.
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pm me if you want contact info for bills guns, I have his phone number at work and will get it for ya if you want it.

He also has a unique and interesting fix for the dreaded doubling and tripling problems. He welds some high strength steel rod on the breach and then shapes it down such that the bolt is hitting the hardened steel as opposed to the soft metal these guns use.

Shot a 821 yesterday which is very good for me and that included a good number of sixes on the slow fire which is a direct result of me not being familiar with the trigger. IE the gun went bang when my finger was looking for the trigger. Hopefully with practice I will be able to find the trigger without tripping the sear.

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pm me if you want contact info for bills guns,
I have his phone number at work and will get it for ya if you want it.
Actually, I wanted to STICKY the info on Bills Guns for future reference.


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He welds some high strength steel rod on the breach and then shapes it down
such that the bolt is hitting the hardened steel as opposed to the soft metal these guns use.
Seems like a very radical approach to solve the doubling problem.
But, if it works ... who can argue with success.
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Hey AOM


bills guns is a rather old fashoned gun repair shop. Father passed it down to the son and gets business by word of mouth. no internet, no advertising, and not sure if he does work through the mail. I will contact him and see if he wants the advertising and I also gave his phone number to another rimfire central shooter from out of state and am waiting to hear back on how he does.

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Legal for .22 is 2 pounds
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Bills guns contact Info

Ok, The contact info for bills guns is 517 641 7171 and the owners name is Jamie. Asked him if he wanted his phone number on the net and told me to go ahead.

He is a FFL and will accept guns through the mail.

I just dropped the IZH 35M off with him again since the ejector is worn out. I am not sure what he is going to do since EAA is not supporting these pistols any more but I am sure he will come up with something.

I am still struggling to learn the trigger for slow fire although my timed and rapid scores have shot to the top. First target of the day is where I am having my most difficulty, something is probably not limited to myself.

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Sticky for Bills Guns

Here's the Sticky for Bills Guns ... thanks crankythunder

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But now everyone knows that You are shooting a trigger that is not legal ( NRA 2 pounds min.) for NRA Shooting. But You do have a legal FREE PISTOL Trigger
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:36 PM
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Dear William

Thank you for your concerns but I heavied it up a little bit. Will fine tune it when I come across a trigger pull gauge.
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