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Old 04-12-2021, 08:35 PM
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I picked up a new Charter Arms Pathfinder Target with the 4-1/2 barrel. First time out at the range yesterday, we consistently had failure-to-fires in double action. Happened about 1/3 of the time. Note that if we fired on that cylinder a second time, they would (almost) always fire. I was using good quality Federal ammo, which I've never had any issues with before. Never a problem in single action.

I notice that the hammer doesn't seem smooth when cocking it in single action: About where the double action let off would be and until the full cock, the hammer seems to require extra effort.

I'm willing to try some simple stuff to keep from having to send the revolver in for service. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Larry
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:12 PM
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It needs to be broke in.
On ours I sat for several evenings while watching a movie dry-firing in dbl action with a rubber buffer to cushion hammer fall on the frame. I dont remember how many hundred times.....but it smoothed up and next day Id try a test dbl act fire, repeat as needed. Eventually it settled in.
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Old 04-12-2021, 11:01 PM
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It sounds like it has a rough surface finish and a borderline hammer spring. You could try taking the grips off and looking at the spring and guide rod. Put a drop of heavy oil at the top of the rod where it meets the hammer and oil the spring. Also watch the spring compress as you pull the hammer back and see if you can identify any rough contact between the spring and guide rod where you feel the rough spot on cocking. It could be a burr or bound spring coil.
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I also have a new target pathfinder. I mistakenly lost the mainspring while taking it apart this weekend before I even shot it. Uggggh.

I shot it with a lighter mainspring from my 38 and had light strikes too. My action was gritty but started to get much smoother within 250 shots. I brought emoty cases home and plan on dry firing it a lot to smooth out the action.

I called the factory and they are sending me a new spring at no cost. The spring in the rimfire is blue and heavier so I anticipate that will solve my light strike issues.

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Old 04-13-2021, 08:47 AM
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I'm willing to try some simple stuff to keep from having to send the revolver in for service. Any suggestions?
I once had a Taurus 94 that experienced light strikes which were remedied by grinding a little off the front face of the hammer. The hammer was hitting the frame before the firing pin was fully extended by the transfer bar. (hard to explain this)

If it's a hammer spring problem, the spring can effectively be made stronger by adding a spacer on the hammer spring pin.
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:57 PM
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Pulled the hammer and spring. The hammer seems to move smoothly on its own. However, the trigger (which I didn't take out) does not seem smooth during the last little bit of travel -- like maybe the transfer bar is hanging up a little. I dropped some lube inside, reassembled, and dry fired a bunch of times. Seems marginally smoother now.

I intend to try again next time out.

Larry
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Old 04-15-2021, 10:12 PM
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You said you used Federal ammo. Was it the blue box that has lead, not copper coated bullets? I ask because I bought a brick of that nasty stuff about a year or two ago and it would misfire in my Colt Diamondback and my 10/22.
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I shot it yesterday and today with the new spring the factory sent me. I have 75%-ish misfires now. It will go back this week to the factory under warranty to get fixed.
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Did you get yours figured out? Mine was shipped back to the factory for free under warranty today.
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You said you used Federal ammo. Was it the blue box that has lead, not copper coated bullets? I ask because I bought a brick of that nasty stuff about a year or two ago and it would misfire in my Colt Diamondback and my 10/22.
Bulk pack, copper coated. I know the wax coated stuff is typically less expensive, but I won't buy them since they don't work the greatest in some things.

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Old 05-02-2021, 03:44 PM
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Did you get yours figured out? Mine was shipped back to the factory for free under warranty today.
I just got back from the range. It worked a lot better this time out. I had no misfires of any sort. I think break in might have been the ticket.

Larry

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I just got back from another outing with my Pathfinder . . . and I'm not pleased.

This time I'm seeing the double action trigger bind up about 50% of the time. This isn't a case of a really heavy trigger pull, as there is no way to put enough force on the trigger to cycle it through.

The lack of smoothness when cocking in single action is back again with a vengeance: About where the double action let off would be and until the full cock, the hammer seems to require extra effort. Now it seems worse that during my first outing.

I think I'm going to avail myself of the Charter Arms Warranty this coming week.

Larry
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I just got back from another outing with my Pathfinder . . . and I'm not pleased.

This time I'm seeing the double action trigger bind up about 50% of the time. This isn't a case of a really heavy trigger pull, as there is no way to put enough force on the trigger to cycle it through.

The lack of smoothness when cocking in single action is back again with a vengeance: About where the double action let off would be and until the full cock, the hammer seems to require extra effort. Now it seems worse that during my first outing.

I think I'm going to avail myself of the Charter Arms Warranty this coming week.

Larry
Sounds like a good plan. I'd be very specific about what is occurring when you contact them and they have you ship it back with a note about what is wrong.
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Mine returned from the factory today. It now has a green colored mainspring and they said they polished the sear shelf. The factory stated they test fired 24 rounds of Federal 40gr LRN rounds with no issues. I plan to give it a try this week.

I hope you get yours resolved.
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Old 05-20-2021, 06:05 AM
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i have a older .22 mag pathfinder with 6" barrel and have not had any problems at all, looks like a 3/4 size S&W k .22.
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