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Old 11-11-2019, 11:18 PM
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What's up with these Warne rings?



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Warne rings on my 452 American
notice the huge gap on the sideplate

Rings say for 11mm or 3/8

Here's pic #1



Flip over the side plate and there's still too much gap



Anyone have a suggestion for rings that fit?
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:26 PM
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:35 PM
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Mine are fine, no problems using them.
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:45 PM
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I have the same problem with Tally ''Quick Change'' cannot get them tight ..
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Old 11-12-2019, 12:25 AM
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Odd, my Warnes fit fine.

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Old 11-12-2019, 12:31 AM
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im not sure if your photo is off or the way its taken,.....

but the left DT looks funny?

Did you try swapping the rings around, even tho it shouldn't make any difference.

also, on the loose clamp side, did you check orientation?

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Old 11-12-2019, 12:49 AM
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rings

they look two small to fit on the rail correctly?
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Old 11-12-2019, 12:55 AM
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3/8 in = .375 in = 9.525 mm. get 11 mm rings.
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Old 11-12-2019, 12:57 AM
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kkd sir they don't look right...you might get more answers if you posted this question down in the scope section. I am thinking the wrong packaging.

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Old 11-12-2019, 01:05 AM
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yea seen this pic before , hopefully you can send them back theres just way to much wrong going on there ! the bases don't even index

Talleys if you like vertical splits ,there aren't any "quick detach" versions I know of for CZ's , you can use highs on an American up to 42-44mm non AO objectives.

Burris for horizontals seem to look and fit as good as any .
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Old 11-12-2019, 01:10 AM
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seems like all 452 americans are a 3/8" dovetail. mines a 22 mag and its 3/8" for sure .
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Old 11-12-2019, 01:28 AM
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this is a 452 varmint 17hmr with the Tally's and Bushnell legend 4.5-14x44 scope
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Old 11-12-2019, 01:48 AM
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personally I would use the CZ horizontal splits and replace the soft slotted screws , they arnt pretty but they fit correctly , the dovetail angle is right and the base of the ring sets on the flat of the boss so the dovetail angle draws down to it . I had a set but I don't think I have pic of them .
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Old 11-12-2019, 03:50 AM
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The only commercially available rings that will *perfectly* fit the CZ 3/8 dovetail are CZ's own rings, P/N 19191.

CZ made their "3/8 in." dovetail with a 45 degree angle. Industry standard 3/8 dovetail uses a 50 degree angle. Thus, American standard 3/8 in. dovetails will work, but they won't fit perfectly.

As for the Warne you have there, they can't accommodate 11mm and 3/8 in. without there being an appreciable gap between the clamp plate and the bottom half of the ring - no-can-do. The 3/8 in. dovetail nominally measure 3/8 in. at the root and about 1/2 in. across the top for the high crown type - it is wider than the 11mm dovetail, which is 11mm across the top.

This is an incorrect comparison of the way American and European dovetails are dimensioned:

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Originally Posted by ronsatspokane View Post
3/8 in = .375 in = 9.525 mm. get 11 mm rings.
If you don't care for or can't find the CZ factory rings, and you really really want your rings to fit well, one option is to have rings made or modified to fit your receiver. I had this done with Burris rings for my 452s.

Hope this helps.

JMK

PS - There is some info in this thread. More in other places if you dig.
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:19 AM
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kkd, you came to the right place with your post. I have to agree with JMK. With the help of a couple of the oldtimers here, I found that the Warne rings (dimple down) work well on the 452's 11mm dovetail.

Warne Rings on 452 Scout

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