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Old 11-09-2019, 03:45 PM
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I have been toying around with the barrel swap Idea on my 457. Actually I bought it as a part time donor gun for a 17 Mach II Lilja barrel. However, after shooting the 457 with the 22LR barrel I decided to keep it that way.

The posts from squirrel1 on the 455 that he put together had me really thinking, why not. So I decided to go that way looking for the "perfect" squirrel rifle in 17 M II.

This is a stainless 455 in a synthetic American stock. Its light... even though I really like wood, sometimes ya just have to give a bit when you are searching.... I am ordering a YoDave kit today as well as rings for the gun. I am guessing it takes 11mm rings for this 1" tube scope that I have on the way.

Here we go again.....
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Old 11-09-2019, 06:15 PM
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All 455 and 457 CZ's use 11mm rings. Sounds like a good idea putting together a .17m2, I have several and really like them.
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Old 11-09-2019, 06:23 PM
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All 455 and 457 CZ's use 11mm rings. Sounds like a good idea putting together a .17m2, I have several and really like them.
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Old 11-09-2019, 08:14 PM
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I have been toying around with the barrel swap Idea on my 457. Actually I bought it as a part time donor gun for a 17 Mach II Lilja barrel. However, after shooting the 457 with the 22LR barrel I decided to keep it that way.

The posts from squirrel1 on the 455 that he put together had me really thinking, why not. So I decided to go that way looking for the "perfect" squirrel rifle in 17 M II.

This is a stainless 455 in a synthetic American stock. Its light... even though I really like wood, sometimes ya just have to give a bit when you are searching.... I am ordering a YoDave kit today as well as rings for the gun. I am guessing it takes 11mm rings for this 1" tube scope that I have on the way.

Here we go again.....
I don’t think you will like the american syn stock with the lilja barrel. I did sand a american syn stock out and used some. Didn’t Like.
You may opt for syn varmint stock.
CZ USA has them in stock currently.
Syn stock is hard to sand and cramps the lilja sport taper barrel they make in hm2.
Much better free floating fit using varmint syn stock.

Btw your total gun weight will go up when you install lilja barrel.
Cheers.

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Old 11-09-2019, 08:17 PM
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I donít think you will like the american syn stock with the lilja barrel. I did sand a american syn stock out and used some. Didnít Like.
You may opt for syn varmint stock.
CZ USA has them in stock currently.
Syn stock is hard to sand and cramps the lilja sport taper barrel they make in hm2.
Much better free floating fit using varmint syn stock.

Cheers.
squirrel1

Thanks for that info....
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:11 PM
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Are you going with the straight bull or tapered Lilja barrel? I'm on a similar journey as you. I have it almost complete. Just waiting on the scope mount and barrel to arrive.

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Old 11-09-2019, 11:44 PM
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Are you going with the straight bull or tapered Lilja barrel? I'm on a similar journey as you. I have it almost complete. Just waiting on the scope mount and barrel to arrive.
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Mine is the tapered Varmint style.

As squirrel1 mentioned above the barrel channel on the American will be tight but I had planned to "open" it a bit any way. If that does not work out well I guess I will go to the syn. varmint one.

We shall see. The gun should be in house next week I suspect.

Good luck with your project.
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Just to share.
I put one of these on my both my 455s.
And used lower rings.

They also make a longer one of these too if you needed one.
https://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail...56323&CAT=3600

Allows for more choice of mounts for scope.
I am not fond of 11mm rail scope mounts. Seems limited availability.

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Old 11-10-2019, 07:28 AM
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I've been toying with Lilja 17hm2, in predator contour for my 457 scout.

Just not sure if 5" longer barrel will look right on that little rifle.

I've never owned or shot a HM2. Admittedly, with zero experience, I have to say I'm discouraged by what I read about ammo issues.

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Old 11-10-2019, 02:05 PM
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I've been toying with Lilja 17hm2, in predator contour for my 457 scout.

Just not sure if 5" longer barrel will look right on that little rifle.

I've never owned or shot a HM2. Admittedly, with zero experience, I have to admit I'm discouraged by what I read about ammo issues.
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I can understand your trepidation. However, it does seem the ammo is getting better. I have a stash of Eley that was well stored and plan on using it, if it proves to shoot well in this new gun. I also have several slides of Hornady and CCI to warm the barrel up with. That being said lets remember, this is truly a hunting/plinking round. Not a bug hole target round although I have seen some targets at 50 yds. (not mine) that could make you wonder. As far as FTF I guess we will just have to see. I am good with that.

I sometimes think the bad reviews and comments get more attention then the unsaid good performance..... if ya know what I mean.



I am going at this strictly as a squirrel gun. If the gun/barrel/trigger will allow me 1" or under at the ranges I squirrel hunt then I will be a happy camper.

EDIT: 11/12/19 Based on what squirrel1 has written I dont think there is much to worry about.
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With reading the online people that had ammo issues, I've not had any problems from all the brands from Remington to CCI. My 17hm2 are all used over gophers fields with very high success rates.
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With reading the online people that had ammo issues, I've not had any problems from all the brands from Remington to CCI. My 17hm2 are all used over gophers fields with very high success rates.
Unless you happen to be a gopher.
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Old 11-12-2019, 04:57 PM
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They do tend to to have a discouraging attitude towards this round.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:00 PM
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They do tend to have a discouraging attitude towards this round.
nodak:

Hopefully I will be able to make the tree type a bit nervous. Now, if the weather will break back to where it was before this lousy cold snap and snow.... Not common for this area this early.

Waiting on the gun, scope, YoDave kit and rings to arrive. I am starting to get the shakes..... what, me anxious..... Yep
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:26 PM
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I’m sort of thinking, with a Lilja barrel, which at $420 will cost right at $100 more than the Scout did, I can make the scout enough of novelty, that it goes hunting instead of the higher priced rifles, from time to time.

Would feel weird to take $500 Scout ( Lilja and glass) instead of Anschutz or Vudoo.
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