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Old 11-21-2020, 10:52 PM
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Greetings,
I'm about to take the plunge and get a .17 caliber, about which I know next to nothing.

Primary use would be club level target competition, and possibly small game hunting.

Any hints on good (or bad) choice?

Thanks.
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Old 11-21-2020, 11:16 PM
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Maximum rifle funding? Scope funding answers will help the guys help you.
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Old 11-21-2020, 11:43 PM
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17 hmr, 17 wsm 17 mach 2, or...

None are really target rounds,just cause no-one makes target ammo, mainly hunting rounds.

They can be very accurate, but then that box is gone and the next box is different.

That aside, i love my 17 hmrs. I have a ruger 77/17 a CZ 455 American and a gorgeous CZ 452 fullstock. One of those always is in the mix when i go to the range.

Im looking for a Winchester 9417, my lgs had a new one, but it was pricey and im stupid so when i finally went to buy it , it was gone.

Savage makes the A 17 if you want semi auto, not for me, but savages have good barrels and are reasonably priced. Their bolts guns are quite good, The ruger 77/17 has been discontinued, but they make one in the RAR series, and the Precision Rimfire , which is a polymer version of their big sniper guns.

Me I like CZs, and the nice thing about them is that a barrel and caliber change is 4 screws away. So thats what id recommend.

Good luck , have fun, and buy a CZ , youll be happy.
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Old 11-21-2020, 11:50 PM
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OOPPSS on me. I never considered that part.
I just got a chunk of cash from the VA for Agent Orange, and I want to use it while I still can.
I guess pretty much a grand for the rifle and scope combo.
I dont think I can use anything Olympic grade.
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Old 11-22-2020, 08:11 AM
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Sorry about the Agent Orange, nasty stuff. Glad you are getting help. CZ452 varmint, blued steel and walnut. I can't speak for other's as it's the only .17 i have. Love mine.
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Merle sir it all depends on what you like...there is plenty to choose from...brand wise and stock and action. I am a magnum guy and have doubles in each caliber of 22mag and 17hmr...like my Marlins, Savage and CZ rifles.

Do you want to have iron sights on your rifle or only a scope, weight and stock style plays a big part in a hunting rifle set up. Are you going to be shooting at game then scope choice also plays an important role in the magnification you are going to need and can use...IE: a 6-24x scope might be too much to follow a rabbit at 6x and on the other hand a 4-16x the 16x on top may not be great for those 100 yards groups.

For me your talking two different guns...one for hunting and another for the range.

I like my CZ and Marlin rifles for hunting I have 4-16x scopes on most of my rifles because I am a hunter and love to be able to follow a rabbit and when needed crank up to what ever for that up close and personal shot.

in my CZ line of rifles the hog back style fits me best...like my 455 Trainer in 17hmr rocks, and my 452 Fullstock is super accurate...but those two rifles are not the best off the bench where my 452 Varmint would be better. Problem is my 452 Varmint is heavy and I don't like carrying it because of that.

My Marlin Magnums which also are 22mag and 17hmr are pretty sweet rifles...both have a regular stock and they also have 4-16x scope on them...I have some rifles that have a 6-24x scope on them for my long range stuff.

it's hard for me to suggest what would be best for you...just too many nice rifles out there. As of today I own 16x CZ rifles...most have a hog back stock on them, I also own half a dozen Marlins...along with 4 Savage rifles, some Rugers.

The ones that always get used are my Marlin and CZ rifles of those it a 455 Trainer, 452 FullStock, my Marlin 917 VSF which are all 17hmr rifles.

There are also a lot of factors involved in choosing a rifle for both task...what type of hunting are you going to do...are you walking a lot, are you riding a ATV and set up your rifle on a mountain top watching for game to move. Slings help with heavier rifles if your walking a lot.

one top of all of that is rifle finish: do you want blue, stainless steel or matte finish. Type of stock: wood, laminate or a plastic, thumbhole, hogback or regular style.

Sorry if this is too many questions...but there are a ton of rifles out there. So as of today what has your eye so we know what your looking at ?

Good luck on your quest.

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I have a Marlin XT-17 with a laminated stock and I love it... Using the 17 gr TNT's, it will group around 1/2" at 50 yards most of the time.. And it will not break your pocketbook.. I have a 4-16X scope on mine, which is good for hunting and target shooting..

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Expanding on Signalman’s questions: at what range will you be target shooting? At what range will you be small game hunting?
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17 hmr, 17 wsm 17 mach 2, or...

None are really target rounds,just cause no-one makes target ammo, mainly hunting rounds.

They can be very accurate, but then that box is gone and the next box is different.

That aside, i love my 17 hmrs. I have a ruger 77/17 a CZ 455 American and a gorgeous CZ 452 fullstock. One of those always is in the mix when i go to the range.

Im looking for a Winchester 9417, my lgs had a new one, but it was pricey and im stupid so when i finally went to buy it , it was gone.

Savage makes the A 17 if you want semi auto, not for me, but savages have good barrels and are reasonably priced. Their bolts guns are quite good, The ruger 77/17 has been discontinued, but they make one in the RAR series, and the Precision Rimfire , which is a polymer version of their big sniper guns.

Me I like CZs, and the nice thing about them is that a barrel and caliber change is 4 screws away. So thats what id recommend.

Good luck , have fun, and buy a CZ , youll be happy.
thanks for the reply. I'm currently leaning toward HM2, mostly because of ammo prices. I also prefer bolt guns, so will have a lot more digging to do. this isn't as simple as I had thought....
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Sorry about the Agent Orange, nasty stuff. Glad you are getting help. CZ452 varmint, blued steel and walnut. I can't speak for other's as it's the only .17 i have. Love mine.

thank you
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I'm currently leaning toward HM2, mostly because of ammo prices. I also prefer bolt guns, so will have a lot more digging to do. this isn't as simple as I had thought.... <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="EEK!" class="inlineimg" />
I didn't realize HM2 was cheaper than HMR. Then again I don't own an HM2. I have a feeling that over the years some of these rimfire rounds will start to fade and become harder to find. IMO the HM2 would be in that category. The HMR on the other hand I would say is here to stay. Far more firearms are offered in HMR and ammo is cheap enough and fairly easy to find even in this shortage. Obviously get whatever suits you, just giving my opinion.
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Greetings,
I'm about to take the plunge and get a .17 caliber, about which I know next to nothing.

Primary use would be club level target competition, and possibly small game hunting.

Any hints on good (or bad) choice?

Thanks.
If we focus on what I highlighted, the 17 mach 2 rocks for edible small game. The hmr on up to small fox's for game you don't mind a little tissue damage on.


For the primary use of club level target, Your going to be better served by a bergara b 14r in a stock of your choosing. And it pains me to say that, as one of the earliest adopters of 17 mach 2 and a bulk consumer of 17hmr. Nobody has bought a 17 for benchrest style comps and been happy with it long term.
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I dragged my feet for years convincing myself that the mag could do every thing the new kid on the block could do until I shot my Grandsons...WOW

Long story short, the Grandson had been observing my crawloffs at distance and made a comment..

Every one has their own brand/brands myself included that can poke incredible little clusters. They say the wind has an effect and it does, but personally on the windy days in the gophers fields, I grab the .17.

The ammo brands is what it is, kind of like the mag, no real supply of the target stuff, more catering to the hunter, even though delighted with some of the groups with the offerings from Hornady in the 17 gn. running it through a German rifle

Trust you'll find your way and when you do its a great shooter



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The hm2 is cheaper and more available now than the 17 hmr. But thats a fluke in the market. Increased ammo demand , but as the hm2 is as popular a 40 sw , not hard to find and prices arent jacked up. But you can get a cz in 22 hmr, and if later wou want to change barrels and calibers its real easy. If you do to 22lr you wont even need new magazines.
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