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Old 11-30-2017, 06:23 PM
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Pretty simple question. What are the differences between the Mk II competition target and the Mk II government target?
I have tried searching but can not find any real info. Best I can tell is the comp target seem to all be SS and have a "slab side" barrel, though I saw a couple pictures of blued ones. The gov target appears to be blue or SS and have a round barrel.
Other than the barrel profile and what is stamped on the receivers, are there any differences?
If you had the chance to buy one or the other (both setting next to each other) would you pick one over the other?
I am new to the Mk II series. I have a Mk III 22/45 and really like it, but everywhere I see the two above mark II models mentioned, they are always held in very high regards.
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Old 11-30-2017, 06:55 PM
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The Government Target model was originally built for use by the US military for training purposes and to their specifications. Each model had to shoot within 1 1/4" at 25 yds . in order to qualify. Ruger made them with a "roller burnished" chamber which supposedly aided in the accuracy department. They were stamped with US markings.
After a period of time Ruger decided to offer them for sale to the public . The civilian offerings were identical to the US Government models except for the markings. Each model also came with test target serial # to the gun testifying to that particular guns accuracy.
Many of the MK II target models will meet or exceed those accuracy standards with the right ammunition but the Government Target was the only model that was guaranteed to do so.
The Competition target model with the slab sided barrel is available in Stainless only while the Government Target model comes in either stainless or blue. While this model does not come with an accuracy guarantee they generally provide a very good degree of accuracy often at least on par with the much esteemed S&W Model 41. I have a Competition Target and like it very much.
They are two rather sought after MK II's .
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Difference between competition target and government target

Aside from possible chamber dimensional differences and the obvious physical external differences the subtle ones are what your asking???

If you remove the pistol grips....

Sights / sight option / trigger pull weight / and model specific stamps/ scroll marks.

I have a comp/target 22/45 and a government target..they are both blued..

both are 6 7/8 barrel.....

same tight chamber....

one is slabsided and one is not......

one has a ruger bird badge stamped into the bolt and one does not.....

sights are different and Im not sure if they are interchangeable or not......


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Some came tapped for scope rails and some did not.
Hope this helps.

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Old 12-15-2017, 10:14 AM
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Peashooter, that is a very fine pair of MK II pistols!
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:27 PM
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Difference between competition target and government target

Thank you Chris

I like them both especially since I can switch grips and barrels around to suit my needs.

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Old 12-17-2017, 03:43 PM
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Old 12-17-2017, 04:28 PM
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....excellent information that pretty much sums up the Government Target Model
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Old 12-18-2017, 06:44 PM
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I have never had a government model. I have had 2 comp. target models. I still have one of them. With a 4X scope I can shoot 5 shots that a dime will easily cover at 25 yards. I have never had a MKII that would shoot 1 1/4" at 25 yards. ALL of them shot well under an inch, under 3/4" for most.
I think it is marketing IMO.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:56 PM
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....excellent information that pretty much sums up the Government Target Model
Based on that article alone, I bought one brand new at a gun show, price was at my dealer cost & I was the dealer. He had a lot of them & probably got a quantity discount.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:58 PM
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:00 PM
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I have never had a government model...I think it is marketing IMO...
They pulled them off the regular assembly line, tested them & if they met the requirements, they became GTM's. If not, they became something else.
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:02 PM
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This picture is not working for me?
Do you mean you can't view it? Maybe something in your browser is blocking it.
It's my personal Google photo album. It has a very long & cryptic image address.
The only place that blocks it from viewing is ARFCom. They strip the image tags after you post it, but not when you preview it.

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Old 12-20-2017, 09:10 PM
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I have had several Gov Target models and all of them shot good, one was outstanding. It would shoot small ragged hole at 25 yards, with scope ,mounted and sand bag rest. Sold it, wish I had not. Now I have a Comp Target that is every bit as accurate and will shoot 1/2" 50 yard groups when the nut on the trigger is up to it. Random assembly of parts sometimes shoot excellent , the Gov Target was the only one tested to shoot good from the factory.
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Old 12-21-2017, 06:43 PM
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Do you mean you can't view it? Maybe something in your browser is blocking it.
It's my personal Google photo album. It has a very long & cryptic image address.
The only place that blocks it from viewing is ARFCom. They strip the image tags after you post it, but not when you preview it.
All I see is a circle with a horizontal line in the middle of it, even after clicking on it.
I am using google chrome.
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Old 12-21-2017, 08:03 PM
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They pulled them off the regular assembly line, tested them & if they met the requirements, they became GTM's. If not, they became something else.
So since the Government model is a 6 7/8" bull barrel you are implying that if they didn't meet a certain accuracy standard they either slab sided them and made them a competition target model or cut them them down to a 5 1/2" bull barrel?
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