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Old 12-26-2019, 05:47 PM
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I have the 22 Hornet in a single shot, H&R. reloading is inexpensive and easy and produces some highly accurate rounds.

one must keep in mind that it is NOT a long distance, hi-power, knock-down-drag-out round.
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:52 PM
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Speak up Vincent, Hornet Guru.
Yes, please do. I had a CZ 527 American in .22H. I used Vincent's load formula for the round, which included Hornady's 35gr. bullets. Beautiful gun (it was a special.model with fancy wood and tight checkering) and troubleshoot 3/4" groups ( 100y) with boring regularity. Junk round? I agree with Gerald....
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.22 Hornet

I also use Vincent's load in my 527 Lux. He is very knowledgeable about Hornets.

Last posts I saw from him were on a centerfire forum.

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I am glad I have 2x 22 Hornets and 1x 17 Hornet CZ rifles...and the reason I have two is this. Its a stock factory rifle right out of the box and shooting factory ammo...it was a re sight in because I changed scopes. I don't have time to reload...but really I don't need too. The one great thing about the 22 Hornet is the extra power it has over my 17 Hmr rifles and for me that is really sweet that it shoots good and not a lot of noise or recoil...like my other CF calibers. Bolting on a different scope I did not have to adjust it very much.

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Old 01-24-2020, 12:56 PM
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I have CZ 527s in .22 Hornet, and in .17 Hornet. Neither give me heartburn when it comes to accuracy, though, like the others here, I have a very difficult time beating Hornady's ammo with my own handloads.
Both shoot under 1" as a matter of course. No accuracy problems from either one. The .17 Hornet is sometimes problematic with feeding, but that's been addressed whenever I'm smart enough to remember to push the bolt STRAIGHT, from the rear of the bolt itself, and forgo using the bolt handle.
I have no complaints. The CZ is the third .22 Hornet I've owned, the others were the bone-simple H&R single shots, which shoot extraordinarily well for dollar spent. I have had a lot of different .22 centerfires over the years, the only one that I like better is the .221 Fireball (also in a CZ527).
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Old 01-24-2020, 01:14 PM
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I've been cautioned that free advice is often worth what you pay for it.

My CZ shoots under an 1" at 100 yards with factory loads.
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Old 01-24-2020, 02:54 PM
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How about splitting the difference?


19 Calhoon™(Hornet)
up to 3600 ft/sec


http://www.jamescalhoon.com/images/19calhoon.gif


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"Ballistics of a 22 cal., velocities of a 220 SWIFT, yet low fouling and low recoil...in three great cartridges..."
.19 Calhoon --- More than just a Wildcat

Accuracy Comparison (22 Hornet vs. 19 Calhoon (Hornet)





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19 Calhoon
27gr DBL HP @ 3600 ft/sec - +1" @ 100 yards 	  	27gr DBL HP @ 3600 ft/sec - 0" @ 100 yards
32gr DBL HP @ 3400 ft/sec - +1" @ 100 yards 	  	32gr DBL HP @ 3400 ft/sec - 0" @ 100 yards
19-223 Calhoon
32gr DBL HP @ 4100 ft/sec - +1" @ 100 yards 	  	32gr DBL HP @ 4100 ft/sec - 0" @ 100 yards
36gr DBL HP @ 3800 ft/sec - +1" @ 100 yards 	  	36gr DBL HP @ 3800 ft/sec - 0" @ 100 yards
40gr DBL HP @ 3700 ft/sec - +1" @ 100 yards 	  	40gr DBL HP @ 3700 ft/sec - 0" @ 100 yards
44gr DBL HP @ 3600 ft/sec - +1" @ 100 yards 	  	44gr DBL HP @ 3600 ft/sec - 0" @ 100 yards

BALLISTIC TABLES


http://www.jamescalhoon.com/images/bullets.gif

L to R: 19 CALHOON, 17 Rem, 19-223 CALHOON, 223 Rem, 22 Hornet

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Old 01-24-2020, 04:16 PM
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.22 Hornet

I would still like to hear from Vincent. He had over 30 years experience loading Hornets and each load was well documented.

Last I heard he was having some health problems. Anybody able to shed some light on Vincent?

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Old 02-02-2020, 11:09 PM
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No Hornet here but if I had one it's be a 17.
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I made the jump to hornet in '08 when .22s started going up in price
(The days of the $10 walmart federal 550 pack were gone)

Anschutz 1432 in .22 hornet.
-12.7gr lil-gun
-behind a 40gr vmax
-cci br small rifle primers.
bullet seated so the lands just kiss the ogive

shoots superb

9-9.8gr of 4227 does ok too. My rifle never liked the 35gr vmax bullet nor did it take to any of the popular H-110 or 3031 loads.

The hornet is big enough for coyotes and still small enough for starlings, its diminutive case capacity and report make it more friendly than its bigger brethren, and reasonably cheap to reload.

Truth be told, outside deer season, most of us E of the Mississippi seldom have need for anything bigger than a hornet. The game is smaller, the shots are <300yrds, and the neighbors are always closer than you think.

All the old varmint and .22 specific books say every hornet should be bumped up to K hornet. I've considered it often but my rifle shoots too well to take the leap.

The .17 hornet had me excited! A re-loadable .17!
Same energy @360yrds as an HMR has @50!
3700+/-fps is nearly swift territory
(I think 22-250 @ 4450fps is the fastest factory load in any caliber right now)
And again that low case volume is padding your pocket book for more rounds down range!
Unfortunately for CZ, I reunited with my childhood sweetheart (.22lr) and it stuck.

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Old 02-06-2020, 07:24 AM
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Sorry but your load data needs looking at, you'd have trouble getting 27 grains of Lil'Gun into two 22 Hornet cases.
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Old 02-06-2020, 08:35 AM
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yep. The 17HH takes LESS than 10 grains of lilgun......
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I would still like to hear from Vincent. He had over 30 years experience loading Hornets and each load was well documented.

Last I heard he was having some health problems. Anybody able to shed some light on Vincent?

Hoggr
In our last pm's about health and wotnot he was still dealing with his debilitating back issues which are permanent. Even in today's world not everything can be surgically fixed unfortunately.
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Old 02-06-2020, 10:00 AM
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Sorry but your load data needs looking at, you'd have trouble getting 27 grains of Lil'Gun into two 22 Hornet cases.
Yeah, that was ALL wrong.
I typed "27" in all fields for both powders.....brain fart.
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Old 02-06-2020, 01:46 PM
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Hornets

Al, next time you have a PM with Vincent express the appreciation that Hornet enthusiasts on RFC have for his ability to share loading insights. He tells us what his many years of Hornet history have taught him and backs it up.

I struggled with my Hornets until Vincent turned me around and am very grateful.

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