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Old 10-30-2019, 08:43 PM
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Daystate Huntsman Regal XL



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I just delved into the world of PCP air rifles for the first time.
I joined the Airgun Nation & Gateway to Airguns forums looking for advice.
For several years, I have been using my old RWS Diana model 36 Springer in my backyard for silhouette practice, but Springers just are not ideal for offhand target practice. The Rifle weighs 10 lbs. 4oz., and the recoil makes it very difficult to watch your follow through in the scope. After getting much good advice from the helpful folks at those forums, I bought a Daystate Huntsman Regal XL in .177.
Gotta say, it’s a beautiful, well made air rifle!
Everything about it exudes quality & class.
With a Sightron SII Big Sky 6-24x42 Silhouette scope, it weighs 8lb, 4oz. It has a 2 stage, 3 way adjustable trigger that has one of the crispest, cleanest breaks I’ve ever felt.
My NRA smallbore silhouette rifle is an Anschutz 1712- and I’m really pleased with how close the Regal feels to my 1712. I haven’t had a chance to shoot it more than a few rounds, but the Daystates feature Lothar Walther barrels, so accuracy should be excellent- in fact, I have yet to see a bad review online.
I can tell already that this PCP is going to provide practice that is much closer to my actual rifle setup than the springer I’ve been using- In all the most important ways- ergonomics, weight, balance, trigger and accuracy.


Jim & Nancy at Precision Airguns & Supply in Michigan were very accommodating. I asked them to look through their current inventory and find me one with a nicely figured stock. The next morning I found an email with the following pictures, they were taken in fluorescent light so they actually don’t do the stock justice, it is absolutely gorgeous. Try to find a Rimfire dealer that will do that for you!









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Old 10-31-2019, 07:18 AM
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DrGunner---VERY nice looking stock on that one for sure! The checkering job looks outstanding as well, seems very nicely executed (no overruns, etc). Post up some groups when you have a chance.

I have a lowly Hatsan 95 (.22 cal) with the "gas ram", purchased several years ago for backyard pest control mainly. Has a decent looking Turkish walnut stock, nice piece of wood, but looks like crap compared to the Daystate! But hey, for around $150 at the time, I can't complain. The Hatsan is decently accurate and hits very hard. Tough on the backyard critters...
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:06 AM
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It looks like a beauty. Your comment about Jim and Nancy at Precision Airguns and Supplies made me smile because I couldn't agree more. Since I live only 20 miles from their shop I've spent a lot of time there and most of my airguns, supplies, and accessories have come from there.
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DrGunner,
I have the same Daystate as yours. Accuracy is better than I expected.
You may want to consider the Rowan single shot loader (better than the stock one) and the adjustable butt plate.
http://rowanengineering.com/products...olveringloader

The H&N Baracuda Match 10.65gr and the JSBExact Monster Diabolo 13.43gr, are working best in mine.
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:44 AM
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I also owned a Regal for a couple of years. Very nice shorter-style rifle. Like every PCP I've shot, they are very accurate. I bought mine from Airguns of Arizona. I also participate on Airgun Nation. Learned a lot there, even more than here, because I was so new to PCP when I joined AGN.

Here's my Steyr Hunter Scout Auto 5 (.22). The semi-auto feature (5-shot bar mag) is so fun! This is a Gary Can custom stock. I like the stock but wish I had kept the shorter (walnut) that came with it, such lighter.

I squirrel hunt a bit with it. I shoot it indoors at my home during the winter.
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DrGunner---VERY nice looking stock on that one for sure! The checkering job looks outstanding as well, seems very nicely executed (no overruns, etc). Post up some groups when you have a chance.

I have a lowly Hatsan 95 (.22 cal) with the "gas ram", purchased several years ago for backyard pest control mainly. Has a decent looking Turkish walnut stock, nice piece of wood, but looks like crap compared to the Daystate! But hey, for around $150 at the time, I can't complain. The Hatsan is decently accurate and hits very hard. Tough on the backyard critters...
Thanks for the kudos!
I wish you could see it in sunlight. The figure is deeper & more extensive than the pics show.
Yeah- their stocks are made by Minelli in Italy. Amazing what laser checkering can accomplish these days- the checkering feels sharp with Velcro like grip, especially the offhand/foreend.

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It looks like a beauty. Your comment about Jim and Nancy at Precision Airguns and Supplies made me smile because I couldn't agree more. Since I live only 20 miles from their shop I've spent a lot of time there and most of my airguns, supplies, and accessories have come from there.
Yeah- I emailed 3 vendors asking for pics. Only Jim & Nancy replied, with pics- which felt like fate as they also had the best price. I ordered on Monday morning and the rifle was delivered Tuesday!!!

Jim was very helpful answering my many questions on the phone, as I’m a total NOOB to PCP Airguns.
Great folks to do business with, they’ll get my return biz.



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DrGunner,
I have the same Daystate as yours. Accuracy is better than I expected.
You may want to consider the Rowan single shot loader (better than the stock one) and the adjustable butt plate.
http://rowanengineering.com/products...olveringloader

The H&N Baracuda Match 10.65gr and the JSBExact Monster Diabolo 13.43gr, are working best in mine.
Glen H
Glen-Thanks for the tip on the single shot tray, so far mine seem to be working out fine but I don’t have many pellets down range yet so it’s too soon to tell. I just happen to have both of those flavors of pellets on hand, a couple of tins of each as I already own two RWS Diana Springers. I also have the JSB in 10.34gr, Which are universally reported to produce excellent accuracy from the Regal.

Glad to hear from another owner reporting better than expected accuracy. Question: what pressure do you fill your rifle to?
And how far do you typically see the pressure dropped before you need to refill?

I know it varies quite a bit from rifle to rifle, but I’d like to get an idea so that I can calculate how many times I will be able to fill mine from a 90CI 4500 psi carbon fiber tank.

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I also owned a Regal for a couple of years. Very nice shorter-style rifle. Like every PCP I've shot, they are very accurate. I bought mine from Airguns of Arizona. I also participate on Airgun Nation. Learned a lot there, even more than here, because I was so new to PCP when I joined AGN.

Here's my Steyr Hunter Scout Auto 5 (.22). The semi-auto feature (5-shot bar mag) is so fun! This is a Gary Can custom stock. I like the stock but wish I had kept the shorter (walnut) that came with it, such lighter.

I squirrel hunt a bit with it. I shoot it indoors at my home during the winter.
I looked at Airguns of Arizona- but I got mine for $150 less than their price & was able to pick one with pretty wood. Kind of a no brainer.

Gary makes some beautiful exotic designs.

You have VERY nice rifles, Sir! Thanks for sharing-

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I fill to 3500 and get 40-50 shots.
Mine is not the regulated version.
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Wow! I am pretty jealous right now. Lol. Nice gun buddy. I know it will shoot.
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I fill to 3500 and get 40-50 shots.
Mine is not the regulated version.
Glen
Mine is also non regulated. It’s the XL/ 18FPE version. Larger tank-
It’s easy to tell the difference. The original non-XL has an air tank that ends within 1 inch of the stock and is 12FPE. The XL version has an extra 6 or 8 inches of tube sticking out under the barrel. Would you happen to know what pressure your rifle is at when you finish your 40- 50 shot string?

An estimate will do.

Thanks for the 411...

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Nice Daystate. Especially nice.

I bought my Huntsman XL from Precision also and they are good people.

Enjoy that airgun. In spite of the price they don’t come much nicer.

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Nice Daystate. Especially nice.

I bought my Huntsman XL from Precision also and they are good people.

Enjoy that airgun. In spite of the price they don’t come much nicer.

David
Thanks for the kudos. In many firearm purchases, we buy things and we are disappointed or at least only mildly satisfied that we got what we wanted. In this case, I am more than pleasantly surprised with what I received-So far it has exceeded my expectations in every conceivable aspect. The only thing left to prove here is accuracy and I’m pretty confident it will do fine there, especially since I really only intend to use it from my back porch at 25 and 50 yards.

Agreed. Price right now is $999, only at PA&S. Shipping was $30, but I got mine the next day. I spent the last two months drilling people with questions, trying to keep my investment between 500 and $700 for the rifle. But I finally bit the bullet and bought this one, it was the stock that sent me over the edge. Now that I have it in hand, I would put the fit and finish on par with my Anschutz, they really are that well-made and worth the money if you want a quiet backyard & all around hunting rig. The power output of the 22 caliber’s is strong enough to take down raccoons and such without a problem. Kind of nice that it comes with its own silencer and since it’s not a firearm, it’s legal.

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Very good price on that Regal! I don't recall exactly, but I think I paid closer to $1,200 about 4 years ago. Your experience should be wonderful. I never had a lick of trouble with mine. I just got itchy to try something else. Tried Wolverine and Air Wolf too. The shot count was super high on the Air Wolf. Finally didn't like the bottles, too bulky.

By the way, I bought both my Steyr's from an outfit in Norway (Krales). I saved several hundred dollars, almost $1,000 and the rifle arrived in 3 days. Took a week to get the Daystate from Arizona.
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If I recall 50 shots puts me around 2000 psi. Somewhere about there the Harper valve system looses its consistency and shots stare to drop. Still a good sized window for a non regulated rifle.
Mine is the XL also.
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Very good price on that Regal! I don't recall exactly, but I think I paid closer to $1,200 about 4 years ago. Your experience should be wonderful. I never had a lick of trouble with mine. I just got itchy to try something else. Tried Wolverine and Air Wolf too. The shot count was super high on the Air Wolf. Finally didn't like the bottles, too bulky.

By the way, I bought both my Steyr's from an outfit in Norway (Krales). I saved several hundred dollars, almost $1,000 and the rifle arrived in 3 days. Took a week to get the Daystate from Arizona.
I looked hard at the Kral rifles. They’re made in Turkey- and all have those beautiful Turkish Walnut stocks. The Kral “Puncher” series has a few sporter style stocks that would have worked well for my purposes, and most had much bigger tanks than the relatively small 162cc on my Daystate. So, shot count is very high. I joined Airgun Nation & GTA forums- got great help on both, although GTA seems more active and “feels” a lot like RFC.

I could have saved $400-500 and bought a Kral, but I was really surprised by how few people had anything to say about them. I want to say one or two people weighed in on each site, both describing Kral as “hit or miss” on accuracy.
I certainly didn’t want something that performed like an OEM 10-22 that was going to take lots of work and tuning to shoot.
Funny thing is, when I first joined, several members recommended the Regal. Price then was $1200. I thought, “This is what WE do to people in the Ultimate 10-22 forum!!!! We enablers spend people’s money!” But- at least they’re happy in the end. So-2 forums, 3 threads, and dozens of responses and rifles priced and researched, I realized that those first guys were RIGHT. This was the perfect rifle for what I wanted. I just had to do the research to come full circle.
You do get what you pay for.

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If I recall 50 shots puts me around 2000 psi. Somewhere about there the Harper valve system looses its consistency and shots stare to drop. Still a good sized window for a non regulated rifle.
Mine is the XL also.
Glen
Glen- THANK YOU. Airguns of Arizona has great resources like a tank fill calculator.
Input your data, and it estimates the number of times you can fill your gun from an air tank. One of the moderators on the GTA site turned out to be local to me- lives 10 minutes away and we’d actually met & done business many years ago. He kindly hooked me up with a local source- a Paintball outfit that will sell me a 90ci/4500psi carbon fiber tank and regulator/gauge set with fill hose and adapter for $350.
I will then have free refills of the tank forever, or as long as they’re in business.


I just ran the numbers through AoAs calculator- and starting at 4500psi, filling down to tank pressure of 3200psi... filling my 162cc rifle to 3200psi (Daystate lists P-Fillmax=3335psi) and shooting it down to 2000psi, I should get an average of 55.7 fills of the rifle per tank.

So, Averaging 40-50 shots per fill, @ say 50 fills.

I should get 2000-2500 shots per tank, if the calculator is right. I used 50 instead of 55.7 to allow for some loss here & there.

What everyone on the forums say about PCPs is true-
The capital outlay at first- rifle and air source- is expensive. After that, they are dirt cheap to shoot, especially if you have a local place to fill your tank.
Repurposed SCUBA tanks are useless for modern PCPs, with fill pressures above the 3000PSI max of scuba tanks. Plus- they’re Heavy- because they’re made to keep the diver neutrally buoyant.

Here’s a link to Airguns of Arizona’s tank fill calculator:

https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/Tanks/FillCalc.html

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