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Old 07-21-2019, 09:19 PM
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I recently had the opportunity to check out the GSG 1911 22. It feels just like a standard 1911 but has a light slide and a heavier frame. It takes about 80% compatible parts with the standard 1911.

I decided to try one. I have a couple of tricked out Ruger Mark IV 22/45s and really like them but I wanted something different to play with and for under $300 why not try it?

Trigger pull after testing 10 dry fires with my Lyman Electronic Trigger Gage ran just over 5 pounds. A little heavy but it hasn't been shot yet and they say it will get better with age. Ha Ha !

Has anyone had a chance to play with one of these? What are your opinions. From the reviews I've seen on line and at YouTube it looks like a fun toy.
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Old 07-21-2019, 09:26 PM
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I handled one at a show. I was tempted. It seemed pretty well put together. If I still shot a real 1911, I'd have likely bought it.
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Old 07-21-2019, 10:07 PM
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Yep, have had mine for going on 2 years but not shot a lot so likely still breaking in. It likes to be run wet, but not dripping. All Ive been using is HV bulk pack, mostly the plated bullets. Decently accurate in the playing around Im doing these days. I wanted a 1911 in 22, tired of big bores and chasing reloading brass.
Early versions had some issues, later have worked out most though individual guns can still be cranky.
The sights are plastic, do not over torque the locking screw
The barrel doesnt float, it is locked down in back to the frame and the barrel bushing looks the same but functions a bit differently.
It is a 'series 80' design and anyone familiar with working on the s-80 1911 can work the trigger. Mine has been 'cleaned up'/simplified but still has a bit of 'disconnector click'. It functions somewhat as my first stage at this point and breaks clean soon after.
I fit a set of 1911 G10 grip panels, only had to relieve the right one a bit more for the ambi-safty. The grip screws are metric, you have to change the screw bushings for trick screws; some say the bushing threads now are metric also. I dont know, I used the oem screws.
There is a fair amount of info online and some specialty suppliers of various parts. The 80% interchangeable thing is kind of optimistic, imo.
I like mine but friend Charlie recently got the Walther version and likes it better. After a few years we may have some comparison conclusions.

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Old 07-21-2019, 10:31 PM
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Thumbs up i had one 5 years

early model, made 2011. took 500 + rds to break it in and become reliable. accurate enough, I added a full length guide rod, that helped it be more reliable. older ones were bad about peening the slide hold open notch, steel part into aluminum slide! I understand newer ones had a steel insert to fix the problem. I bought a walther/colt .22 1911 gold cup, much superior to the gsg. I ended up trading the gsg on a new ruger MKIV stainless target, kept the colt. for the money the gsg is a blast to shoot, feels like a real 1911.
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Old 07-21-2019, 10:34 PM
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bushing screws are metric also

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Yep, have had mine for going on 2 years but not shot a lot so likely still breaking in. It likes to be run wet, but not dripping. All Ive been using is HV bulk pack, mostly the plated bullets. Decently accurate in the playing around Im doing these days. I wanted a 1911 in 22, tired of big bores and chasing reloading brass.
Early versions had some issues, later have worked out most though individual guns can still be cranky.
The sights are plastic, do not over torque the locking screw
The barrel doesnt float, it is locked down in back to the frame and the barrel bushing looks the same but functions a bit differently.
It is a 'series 80' design and anyone familiar with working on the s-80 1911 can work the trigger. Mine has been 'cleaned up'/simplified but still has a bit of 'disconnector click'. It functions somewhat as my first stage at this point and breaks clean soon after.
I fit a set of 1911 G10 grip panels, only had to relieve the right one a bit more for the ambi-safty. The grip screws are metric, you have to change the screw bushings for trick screws; some say the bushing threads now are metric also. I dont know, I used the oem screws.
There is a fair amount of info online and some specialty suppliers of various parts. The 80% interchangeable thing is kind of optimistic, imo.
I like mine but friend Charlie recently got the Walther version and likes it better. After a few years we may have some comparison conclusions.
but sae thread bushings screwed right into the aluminum frame. worked perfectly , but no going back to metric , the deed is done !
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Old 07-21-2019, 10:39 PM
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The 'pin' didnt fix it, still peens the notch; never had the old one without so maybe it isnt as bad or, maybe it does just so much and stops. I recently just peened the lip back down with my tiny hammer.
I often avoid getting to the hold-open so the slide stop doesnt engage after an empty magazine. Keeping track of my round count I stop shooting with the last round fed in chamber, drop/insert new mag and rock on. This cuts the engagement in half.
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Old 07-22-2019, 09:26 AM
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I got one when they first came out. Mine is a satisfactory plinker. I wouldn't hunt with it or shoot serious target. It's ammo sensitive. It's worth what I paid.
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I've had one for about a year or so and have shot it a few thousand rounds. I have 4 magazines for it and usually shoot them all at last once per week. Mine has been reliable from the first shot and I shoot cheap stuff in it. I also have a 22/45 that I shoot but I like the GSG better. It feels, aims and shoots just like my RIA 1911 in 9MM.

I have become obsessed with revolvers lately and I have been using about a brick of 22 every week. I normally shoot the GSG 1911-22, a Ruger Single Six, a Charter Arms Pathfinder and leave the 22/45 and Rough Rider in the safe.
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:17 PM
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Unhappy not a fix huh

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The 'pin' didnt fix it, still peens the notch; never had the old one without so maybe it isnt as bad or, maybe it does just so much and stops. I recently just peened the lip back down with my tiny hammer.
I often avoid getting to the hold-open so the slide stop doesnt engage after an empty magazine. Keeping track of my round count I stop shooting with the last round fed in chamber, drop/insert new mag and rock on. This cuts the engagement in half.
my walther / colt gold cup has a reinforcement in the slide notch, it hasn't peened, thank goodness. I like the colt pistol much better, sold my gsg.
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:39 PM
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Chet Whistle @ CW Accessories - https://www.cwaccessories.com/shop-2 is a great source of upgrades and/or accessories you might find helpful if you run into any challenges.
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Old 07-23-2019, 04:32 PM
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Chet Whistle @ CW Accessories - https://www.cwaccessories.com/shop-2 is a great source of upgrades and/or accessories you might find helpful if you run into any challenges.
Some of those parts approach what I paid for my gun.
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Old 07-23-2019, 07:32 PM
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With the slide off I could certainly feel my trigger wasnt bad at all but it got the 'spring tweak' anyway.
The magazine safety wasnt a problem but I dont care for it.
But that series 80 type firing pin safety was a glitchy issue. Now, to be clear, I dont recommend disabling safety features.....this is for info only.
The Colt's 1911 s-80 is a plunger and coil spring, its activating lever pushes it straight up but the lever, pivoting, must slightly traverse the rounded bottom of the plunger a bit. That can sometimes be felt when squeezing the trigger; objectionable to some.
The GSG's plunger looks much the same from under the slide, but it is different inside. Instead of a simple cylindrical plunger it has a transverse bar across the top of it within the removable firing pin block. Note that the block can be removed by driving out the SPLINED PIN left to right. When reinstalling it be sure to line up the previous spline grooves impressed in the slide!
Returning to the plunger....it does not lift cleanly. Maybe it can be made to, I gave up and removed the plunger and spring to trial it. I can tell you that upon testing the glitchy trigger is much improved, all that remains of a glitch in mine is the disconnector click. There are ways to address that but if done wrong the magazine Will Empty With One Trigger Pull.
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Old 07-24-2019, 12:49 AM
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Well, got the gun, now I needed magazines. Fortunately I found some at a much better price then the LGS had them, at $40 each. I think I paid $20 from E-Bay.
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Wha Hoo!
As is often recommended I started with CCI MiniMags and ran it until it balked, ten took down, cleaned, lubed well and it took right off again.
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I have 2 of them. One is mostly stock, runs almost any ammo and is pretty accurate. The other is highly modified, runs on HV ammo and is very accurate.
These are both very reliable. I clean them every brick or so.
I get mags from gunmagwarehouse - 17.00

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I have split playing cards out to 60 feet with the modified one. At 25yds it's as accurate as my M41.

As mentioned above Chet whistle is the man for mods on these.

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