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Hunter2678 11-08-2018 09:07 AM

Cutting 452 american barrel down?
 
Anyone ever considered doing it to say 18" or 16" I've often thought about doing it for better accuracy and maneuverability but am still a bit chicken about going through with it. Mine shoots really well .5"-1" at 50yds without really trying..Wondering if it would shoot better at a shorter carbine length.

Toomany22s 11-08-2018 09:19 AM

Why do that? If you want a short CZ just buy a scout.that way you would have 2 good shooters and a 455 platform Incase you had any more what If thoughts !:D

Hunter2678 11-08-2018 09:40 AM

Well....so I wouldn't have to buy another rifle to do it!!...I guess for sh*ts and giggs I could expand my original question to include 455s as well.

hickorynut 11-08-2018 09:44 AM

A friend of mine recently purchased a 455 stainless, a super accurate rifle right out of the box, he had the barrel threaded for a can, I feared he might lose accuracy, instead it became THE rifle to beat, it simply shoots lights out.
He didn't cut it back, just had it threaded but it was already near 4" shorter than the 452s

flangster 11-08-2018 09:48 AM

Three things:

a) it's your rifle, do what you want with it.
b) personally, I don't mess with rifles that shoot well.
c) I did this with a Savage BTVS that had a tight spot in the barrel about three inches before the muzzle. Took about three hours and it and it did improve things.

Here's how I did it:

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GladesGuy 11-08-2018 09:58 AM

If it shoots that well it is a shame to experiment with it. Many folks here would readily swap you a 455 for a 452. Then you could experiment with cutting the barrel and easily replace it for little money if it doesn't work out.

Hunter2678 11-08-2018 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hickorynut (Post 11223587)
A friend of mine recently purchased a 455 stainless, a super accurate rifle right out of the box, he had the barrel threaded for a can, I feared he might lose accuracy, instead it became THE rifle to beat, it simply shoots lights out.
He didn't cut it back, just had it threaded but it was already near 4" shorter than the 452s

Yeah I have a couple of other 22s with 16" tubes and they shoot great..they seem more consistent than my 452.

wtb22hp 11-08-2018 10:01 AM

Whack a 452.........now that's just..................! Look at the prices a very clean 452 will bring today!

Hunter2678 11-08-2018 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wtb22hp (Post 11223615)
Whack a 452.........now that's just..................! Look at the prices a very clean 452 will bring today!

I knew I'd get some visceral reactions....maybe Ill just buy another and try it.

Tiger-Ock 11-08-2018 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter2678 (Post 11223549)
Mine shoots really well .5" at 50yds without really trying...

Why would you cut up a subMOA rifle that is worth at least its purchase price? Looking for them halfMOA groups, are ya? Well, good luck with that. "Try..." and shoot better, use some better ammo, but don't take no hacksaw/Sawsall to it.

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Gun Bubba Ock

Hunter2678 11-08-2018 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiger-Ock (Post 11223683)
Why would you cut up a subMOA rifle that is worth at least its purchase price? Looking for them halfMOA groups, are ya? Well, good luck with that. "Try..." and shoot better, use some better ammo, but don't take no hacksaw/Sawsall to it.

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Gun Bubba Ock

Not looking for one hole..Im looking to keep or slightly improve the accuracy without the extra barrel length...I love a 22 carbine for a carry / hunting rifle. Thats my rub with the 452. Barrel is about 4"-5" too long for my preference. Its just un-needed length IMO.

jmrybak 11-08-2018 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter2678 (Post 11223705)
Not looking for one hole..Im looking to keep or slightly improve the accuracy without the extra barrel length...I love a 22 carbine for a carry / hunting rifle. Thats my rub with the 452. Barrel is about 4"-5" too long for my preference. Its just un-needed length IMO.

At the end of the day it’s your 452. Can you cut the barrel, of course. Will it improve accuracy, likely not any more than finding the best ammo for your rifle as is.

Folks around here are likely not going to be fans of significantly and irreparably altering a 452 that shoots very well as is. Frankly, they are hard to come by and there are probably several who would buy that 452 from you today. Then you could buy a rifle that fits your desired barrel length.

But again, it’s your 452.

wkd 11-08-2018 12:27 PM

In spite of what some think there is nothing super special about a 452. It is a mid priced production run sporter, if you want a 16 inch American, make it so. You paid for it, alter it to a point where it makes you happy. Will it be more accurate, maybe, if done properly there should be no loss in accuracy.

wtb22hp 11-08-2018 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter2678 (Post 11223645)
I knew I'd get some visceral reactions....maybe Ill just buy another and try it.


Hunter2678, not trying to admonish you, it's your rifle, to me it would be sacrilegious, but that's just me. I still do feel a clean 452 is just to valuable to cut considering it's no longer in series production, better to sell and replace with 455 and be able to easily replace a barrel that "could" be ruined. Happy Shootin'

65BR 11-08-2018 01:14 PM

Options
 
Get a Youth, OR, perhaps consider a Ruger American, with 18" - sure handle well in the woods ;)

FWIW, I like 17-20" for field use....good luck whatever you do.


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