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RICOCHET 12-24-2008 01:13 AM

" Flexibility "....
 
okay, all,

asked this elsewhere, but got buried, lol, which is normal, SO......

am thinking of trying out a Hogue OM stock, and would like some honest
feedback as to how it shoots accurately off the bench @ 25/50 yds,
with the stock being the major factor, using whatever ammo you have,

i dont plan on bedding and i dont hunt, so weight is not an issue, but
have heard that the fore arms are a bit flexible, and i wont be using
a bi-pod,

would like to get some honest answers of what or how you all here would
"RATE" this stock, accuracy-wise. i know there are a lot of those stocks here,
mostly hunting guns i would imagine,

thanks all, comments are always welcome,

Rico....









noahjoe 12-24-2008 01:28 AM

I have one on my hunting rifle. From bags on a bench it was shooting about 1/2" or so at 50 yards the other day, and I've hit several partridge in the last week in the neck with it at 40+ yards. This was from various positions (kneeling, sitting, rested against a tree, and off the hood of the truck).

For the $65 or so, it's a winner in my book.

Dr. Mongoose 12-24-2008 08:29 AM

I'd go with it! If it is too flexable it is a simple job to dremel a few notches in the bulkheads and epoxy in metal rods to stiffen it.

AK 12-24-2008 08:42 AM

It works good for a target stock but it's definately a hunting stock:) I use them and I added a piece of weatherstrip for a pressure pad on the tip of the stock, got good groups:t

Signcutter 12-24-2008 12:24 PM

Hogue OM Stock
 
Rico, I have A hogue on a KID everything(bolt,barrel,trigger,pins buffer, ). It shoots under .400 at fifty yds with Federal Automatch. With CCI greentag it opens up to about .750. In a bedded Walnut Stock The greentag shoots into under .350 and the Auto Match opens up to about .650.

My conculsion is that the High velocity likes the Hogue free floated barrel channel, but the target grade needs tip pressure . I belive that the OM stock is quite good and everything is very tight. I had to thin down all my mags to get them to drop free when released.

My Walnut stock is a SK thumbhole and is very nice and i would use it with any target grade ammo. I haven't tried any type of forearm tip pressure on the Hogue, but have thought about some type of bughole tunner to try to get it to shoot both HV and SV ammo.

I hope this info helps. By the way I haven't noticed any problems with flexing if you don t put any extra pressure on the forearm.

RICOCHET 12-24-2008 09:31 PM

thanks, all who responded,

gonna try one out with a bull bbl. just need to find the cheapest place, color
dont matter, lol, "basic black" is okay with me,

happy holidays, all,

Rico....









Vincent 12-24-2008 10:13 PM

I had a chance this past summer to work on a rifle in the shop that started with a heavy barrel in a factory stock, to a Boyds stock and finally into a Hogue. Everything else stayed the same.

The Hogue stock was not as accurate as either wood stock. No Question about it for me. It is also not as happy on a bench rest either as the rubber stock tends to be a bit "grabby" instead of riding the bag like a normal stock.

RICOCHET 12-24-2008 11:05 PM

thanks Vince,

for the heads up. but already ordered one in "green", lol, thought it would
be a bit diff. and will see how it shoots off the bags, just wanted to try one
out to see how it does accuracy-wise,

Rico....









mkenney 12-24-2008 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Mongoose (Post 2133528)
I'd go with it! If it is too flexable it is a simple job to dremel a few notches in the bulkheads and epoxy in metal rods to stiffen it.

Do you have any pictures of this? Sounds interesting to me...

Mark [mkenney]

Vincent 12-24-2008 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RICOCHET (Post 2134752)
thanks Vince,

for the heads up. but already ordered one in "green", lol, thought it would
be a bit diff. and will see how it shoots off the bags, just wanted to try one
out to see how it does accuracy-wise,

Rico....

They are the ultimate "truck" gun stock......not a big thing to you:D

I'm sure with some work they can be stiffened up:bthumb:

ek-marlin-424 12-25-2008 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent (Post 2134817)
They are the ultimate "truck" gun stock......not a big thing to you:D

I'm sure with some work they can be stiffened up:bthumb:

Call me crazy, but I took some leftover carbon fiber fabric and laminated it to the barrel channel of my Marlin rifle's synthetic stock and now the fore-end is incredibly stiff... to the point where the barrel remains free floating when sitting on a bi-pod and barely moves when I sling up the rifle for position shooting.

It is a little bit of work, but PM me if you want some more information on it. Honestly, the entire procedure to fill a fore-end with foam and cover it with carbon fiber will take you a maximum of two hours of work. More time if you want to extend any glassbedding from the inletting to the carbon fiber for even more stability between the fore-end and the rest of the stock. There's an incredible difference in stability.

wdtorque 01-03-2009 12:40 AM

Ek, Did you find that you got better groups/accuracy after you carbon fibered the fore-end?

RICOCHET 01-03-2009 12:56 AM

well,

maybe to answer my own question, which leaves me just as confused
as when i started, lol,

but will get it supposedly on Wednesday. will take a good look at it and
see just how flexible it is.

IF so, will most likely Bondo the full length of the bbl channel and work from
there, as i have read that they are open channels with thin dividers,

anyone can tell that i have no xperience with these stocks, haha,

Rico....









gunn308 01-03-2009 11:14 PM

Midway has them on sale for $54.95 this month I just bought one for my truck/hunting gun we'll see what it does, guess I'll start that 12 step program next year, so much for resolutions.

ek-marlin-424 01-04-2009 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdtorque (Post 2150789)
Ek, Did you find that you got better groups/accuracy after you carbon fibered the fore-end?

The stock shot well with just a foam-filled fore-end and I haven't done any serious target shooting with the rifle since adding the carbon fiber and re-bedding, but when I sighted it in at 25 yards the rifle was shooting one-hole groups when I was resting the fore-end inbetween a couple branches in a tree. I think it just really helps stablilize the fore-end and allows you to shoot with a sling or bipod (or with opportunistic rests, like the tree) without having the POI shift like it may do with a flexible, non-free floating fore-end.


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