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ardxx 10-23-2021 02:43 PM

M4-22 and standard AR15 Parts
 
i finally have mine set up how i want it and figured i'd put some info here for anyone looking down the road.

  • bolt catch - this is a proprietary part made to fit tippman's magazines. no aftermarket parts swappable
  • charging handle - fairly obvious that this is a different part but beyond that the width of the channel inside the upper receiver is also a different dimension. also as a lefty i picked up the tippmann ambi handle.....and hated it. i have inquired with every manufacturer i can think of to get one made how radian makes one for the s&w 15-22 but no luck. for now have opted to go with the original charging handle, less the latch...effectively ambi now without an extra hunk of metal hanging off the left side of the gun.
  • forward takedown pin - confirmed same as AR15
  • forward takedown pin detent - not critical but just for the record, this pin is longer than a standard AR15 detent for some reason.
  • https://tippmannarms.com/m4-22-detent-pin/
  • rear takedown pin - confirmed same external dimensions as AR15 (diameter/length) however the rear takedown pin (unlike the front) appears to have a subtle difference in the depth of the detent and it won't 'click' when fully seated. regardless i kept the aftermarket ones in as they fit so tight they're not going anywhere detent or not.
  • forward assist - standard AR15 - the part you touch is plastic, inside portion is metal. have swapped with radian part.
  • magazine release - standard AR15 although actuation button is plastic. added ambi mag release with no issues
  • safety - as most know, standard AR15 for later models (>20k?). have swapped mine for elf push button safety
  • bolt - obvious one here it is different from AR15. but just for the record: the diameter of opening in rear of bolt is larger than M16 bolt and thus Law folding adapter is a no-go
  • buffer tube - confirmed milspec dimensions, although i did have to brute force a bit to get another end plate over the threads, it was snug. also worth noting is that there is no buffer retention detent in use here (not needed as buffer spring is self-contained system within the receiver extension.
  • end plate - same as standard AR15, retains the takedown pin detent/spring. swapped for milspec to remove the HK style sling attachments
  • trigger - as advertised it takes milspec triggers. i have a timney pcc in mine. worth noting the trigger pins while standard AR15 diameter are a little interesting. i swapped for milspec.
  • grip - takes AR15 grips. swapped mine for magpul. worth noting that the thread pitch of the grip screw is different than standard AR15 so don't lose it. the oem tipmann screw worked fine for magpul grip.
  • ejection port dust cover - this fits a standard AR15 dustcover (with some caveats), i swapped with a strike industries one and did have to modify slightly, it is not a drop-in fit at least for the SI as there is an inlay on the SI dust cover that extends slightly forward of the ejection port keeping the dust cover from closing flush. i just cut a bit of that off with a utility knife and good to go

hope this helps a future owner or prospective owner :t

ac1mac 11-30-2021 11:31 AM

Thanks for the great info. I just picked up two Tippman Arms M4-22 that I want to upgrade some.

KiddsTippmann 12-31-2021 11:24 PM

Thanks for the info.
Do you happen to know if regular AR anti-walk pins will work on a Tippmann?

CJT50 01-01-2022 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiddsTippmann (Post 12575735)
Thanks for the info.
Do you happen to know if regular AR anti-walk pins will work on a Tippmann?

Yes, if the hammer pin hole has the screw head relief cuts. my Tippmann in the 4400 serial number range had the cuts, my 2 in the 1000 range did not. Post 20k, is a non issue and work.

KiddsTippmann 01-01-2022 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJT50 (Post 12576481)
Yes, if the hammer pin hole has the screw head relief cuts. my Tippmann in the 4400 serial number range had the cuts, my 2 in the 1000 range did not. Post 20k, is a non issue and work.

Good to know. My Elite, is in the 30K serial range. Trigger pin walked, causing malfunctions. Ordering anti-walk pins, don't wanna deal with a warranty claim.

Sure is easy to burn through ammo with this thing.:gun4:

ResilientArms 01-06-2022 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardxx (Post 12499073)
i finally have mine set up how i want it and figured i'd put some info here for anyone looking down the road.

  • bolt catch - this is a proprietary part made to fit tippman's magazines. no aftermarket parts swappable
  • charging handle - fairly obvious that this is a different part but beyond that the width of the channel inside the upper receiver is also a different dimension. also as a lefty i picked up the tippmann ambi handle.....and hated it. i have inquired with every manufacturer i can think of to get one made how radian makes one for the s&w 15-22 but no luck. for now have opted to go with the original charging handle, less the latch...effectively ambi now without an extra hunk of metal hanging off the left side of the gun.
  • forward takedown pin - confirmed same as AR15
  • forward takedown pin detent - not critical but just for the record, this pin is longer than a standard AR15 detent for some reason.
  • https://tippmannarms.com/m4-22-detent-pin/
  • rear takedown pin - confirmed same external dimensions as AR15 (diameter/length) however the rear takedown pin (unlike the front) appears to have a subtle difference in the depth of the detent and it won't 'click' when fully seated. regardless i kept the aftermarket ones in as they fit so tight they're not going anywhere detent or not.
  • forward assist - standard AR15 - the part you touch is plastic, inside portion is metal. have swapped with radian part.
  • magazine release - standard AR15 although actuation button is plastic. added ambi mag release with no issues
  • safety - as most know, standard AR15 for later models (>20k?). have swapped mine for elf push button safety
  • bolt - obvious one here it is different from AR15. but just for the record: the diameter of opening in rear of bolt is larger than M16 bolt and thus Law folding adapter is a no-go
  • buffer tube - confirmed milspec dimensions, although i did have to brute force a bit to get another end plate over the threads, it was snug. also worth noting is that there is no buffer retention detent in use here (not needed as buffer spring is self-contained system within the receiver extension.
  • end plate - same as standard AR15, retains the takedown pin detent/spring. swapped for milspec to remove the HK style sling attachments
  • trigger - as advertised it takes milspec triggers. i have a timney pcc in mine. worth noting the trigger pins while standard AR15 diameter are a little interesting. i swapped for milspec.
  • grip - takes AR15 grips. swapped mine for magpul. worth noting that the thread pitch of the grip screw is different than standard AR15 so don't lose it. the oem tipmann screw worked fine for magpul grip.
  • ejection port dust cover - this fits a standard AR15 dustcover (with some caveats), i swapped with a strike industries one and did have to modify slightly, it is not a drop-in fit at least for the SI as there is an inlay on the SI dust cover that extends slightly forward of the ejection port keeping the dust cover from closing flush. i just cut a bit of that off with a utility knife and good to go

hope this helps a future owner or prospective owner :t

We just finished testing a CNC ambidextrous charging handle manufactured by Resilient Arms. Very similar in design as Radian but better in our opinion :). This will be available for pre-order on our website in the next few days. Backorder's will be shipped as new product comes in. Check out the video and photos in the Tippmann Arms group on FB .


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