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Madcow0269 04-12-2021 07:12 PM

Drop-in 2-Stage Match Trigger
 
Been shooting my Tippmann in NRL22 matches and would like to replace the trigger with a 2-stage match trigger.

Any brands available like Timney that will drop in and work?

Pipes1 04-13-2021 08:49 AM

I have the Timney two stage and very happy with the feel. It wasn't a direct drop in but fortunately I live close so took my Tippmann down and they did a bit of modification to the trigger to make it work. Mine was the first Tippmann they had tried but now they know and you can order one from them. Just make sure you tell them it will be for a Tippmann.

Sir 04-13-2021 09:27 AM

Are you saying Timney offers a trigger group that will drop in without any modification to the Tippman M4?

Tell me how your Timney differs from the OEM trigger and which model Timney are you using... Thx.

Pipes1 04-13-2021 10:16 AM

The two stage is a completely different feel where you pull the trigger a bit before hitting a wall. From there it is just 2lbs pull for a really crisp feel. Some seem to be OK with the original trigger but mine felt like it was full of grit and jerky to pull where the Timmney is smooth as can be.

No modification was required to the Tippmann but they had to shave a bit off of the area of the trigger where it contacts the safety. You have to talk to them so they know what it is you have and can make the adjustments.

The model designations have changed but this would be the one I got.
https://timneytriggers.com/ar-targa-...short-trigger/

Not everyone likes the two stage but they can make the same adjustments to their single stages and are very willing to discuss differences and options.

Madcow0269 04-13-2021 11:47 AM

Can you show a pic of what got modified with your trigger?

Pipes1 04-13-2021 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Madcow0269 (Post 12282529)
Can you show a pic of what got modified with your trigger?

Sorry Madcow but wouldn't be able to shot it without taking out of the gun. They just shaved a bit off of the tang that contacts the safety of the Tippmann.

Madcow0269 04-13-2021 08:45 PM

I guess it's wont be too hard to figure out what needs filing down. I'll order the same Timney trigger and go from there.

I currently have an Elftmann installed and it's a great trigger for fast action shooting but for precision work, I like a good 2-stage.

HauntedMyst 04-24-2021 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipes1 (Post 12282307)
I have the Timney two stage and very happy with the feel. It wasn't a direct drop in but fortunately I live close so took my Tippmann down and they did a bit of modification to the trigger to make it work. Mine was the first Tippmann they had tried but now they know and you can order one from them. Just make sure you tell them it will be for a Tippmann.

Great info! Thank you for sharing!

schadavi 04-26-2021 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Madcow0269 (Post 12283119)
I guess it's wont be too hard to figure out what needs filing down. I'll order the same Timney trigger and go from there.

My Timney fit in without any adjustment. No idea which one exactly it is, my gunsmith had one "left over from a match gun" that I got for very little money. It's a golden one with a straigt trigger, single stage.

Funnone 05-07-2021 03:50 PM

Here is the one from Elf, they told me is a direct drop-in for the Tippmann M4-22 https://www.elftactical.com/Elf-Matc...stem_p_51.html

toppkatt 05-13-2021 11:22 AM

Just FYI, I called Timney today to order the AR Targa short 2 stage trigger and the person I spoke with didn't know about the modification for the Tippmann M4. He said he knew some rifles, specifically the HK, needed to be trimmed but he wasn't sure about the Tippman. So beware if you order it might still have to be modified and it doesn't appear to be a standard factory modification.
I.E. it may not be a 'drop-in'

toppkatt 05-17-2021 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by toppkatt (Post 12315591)
Just FYI, I called Timney today to order the Arga short 2 stage trigger and the person I spoke with didn't know about the modification for the Tippmann M4. He said he knew some rifles, specifically the HK, needed to be trimmed but he wasn't sure about the Tippman. So beware if you order it might still have to be modified and it doesn't appear to be a standard factory modification.
I.E. it may not be a 'drop-in'

An update, I received the trigger and installed it with little issues (just remember to tighten the set screws under the hammer springs after you insert the trigger and hammer pins and you're golden:-) ). The safety worked fine with no issue and no need to shorten anything.
Also to the member who asked about the Timney trigger, it is a 'unitized' construct, meaning the trigger, disconnector, hammer and hammer spring are inserted as a unit ( two plates with pins hold the parts together). AFA the two stage goes, you just have to try it to feel the difference. The two stage has two parts to the sear release which allows a 4 pound pull but broken down to 2, two pound legs. The first stage is two pounds and you hit a 'wall' then by continuing to apply two more pounds the second stage lets the sear go with no creep or over travel. For target shooting it is great.
Buy the Timney with confidence, but the LaRue MBT won't fit or work well without major surgery.

Hope this helps! For the record, the original trigger is a single stage and is not bad, but for target shooting I prefer a 2 stage. While the original did not feel gritty or overly heavy it WAS very long uptake before release and there was some over-travel when the sear released.

toppkatt 05-21-2021 05:22 PM

Went to the range this week to test out my new Tippmann and the Timney 2 stage trigger I installed. From the bench at 50 Yds, using Wolf MT ammunition and a Holosun sight I shot a 10 shot group I could cover with a penny. Not bad, I think I'll keep it.
True, not MOA (about 1.5MOA which is smaller than the 2MOA dot on the Holosun sight)), but then a first outing with new gun, first ammo tried, new trigger and new sighting system...I'm okay with the results.

Bonn2015 05-29-2021 06:56 PM

Confirmed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toppkatt (Post 12319549)
An update, I received the trigger and installed it with little issues (just remember to tighten the set screws under the hammer springs after you insert the trigger and hammer pins and you're golden:-) ). The safety worked fine with no issue and no need to shorten anything.
Also to the member who asked about the Timney trigger, it is a 'unitized' construct, meaning the trigger, disconnector, hammer and hammer spring are inserted as a unit ( two plates with pins hold the parts together). AFA the two stage goes, you just have to try it to feel the difference. The two stage has two parts to the sear release which allows a 4 pound pull but broken down to 2, two pound legs. The first stage is two pounds and you hit a 'wall' then by continuing to apply two more pounds the second stage lets the sear go with no creep or over travel. For target shooting it is great.
Buy the Timney with confidence, but the LaRue MBT won't fit or work well without major surgery.
Hope this helps!

I got my Timney AR6625-ST and installed today . They have super installation instructions and nice decales come with it. I like this rifle. If you don`t know about it watch 22 plinkster on U Tube .

toppkatt 05-29-2021 07:30 PM

Don't forget the range report(s).


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