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bmwmc 10-18-2019 11:18 AM

Form 1 Kits
 
Any experiences here? I have a suppressor now 6 months pending. To help pass the time I'm thinking of building a Form 1 rimfire kit. Who's done it?

Hacker 10-19-2019 09:48 AM

I got my Form 1 back a last week and a kit from Quiet Bore arrived yesterday. Gotta finish the kit today. It's my first suppressor. Reviews for the Quiet Bore kit are pretty good. Quiet on a rifle but has a first round pop on a pistol but quietens down after that. I'll let you know how it does

bmwmc 10-19-2019 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacker (Post 11643623)
I got my Form 1 back a last week and a kit from Quiet Bore arrived yesterday. Gotta finish the kit today. It's my first suppressor. Reviews for the Quiet Bore kit are pretty good. Quiet on a rifle but has a first round pop on a pistol but quietens down after that. I'll let you know how it does

Please do. That's the same one I'm looking at. I don't have any threaded .22 pistols, so chiefly interested in rifle performance. Did you get AL or TI baffles?

Hacker 10-20-2019 12:14 AM

Got it finished up and test fired today. On my Brownell's build with Summit Precision barrel it was very quiet using the new CCI Quiet 22 Semi Auto. On my father in law's RPR using the same ammo it was virtually silent. I don't have a 22 pistol to try it on. There was a very big POI shift on both rifles with the can on though. I read that making the holes bigger than 9/32 might fix the POI shift so I might do that at some point instead of re-zeroing.

I ordered aluminum baffles but I think they sent titanium by mistake. I burnt up the bit that came with the drilling fixture (worth the extra money) after two baffles. Then burnt up a couple more bits on the remaining baffles. I drowned it in cutting fluid while drilling and it still ruined the bits.

bmwmc 11-25-2019 12:39 PM

My Form 1 was approved and I converted a Quietbore .22 kit. I have never been around a suppressed rifle before, so I don't have any basis for comparison. But on a T1X I'm impressed. Have access to a bench top lathe so drilling was easy. Barely noticeable impact on the gun's handling, no POI shift. In a brief session accuracy seems similar.

grg 01-07-2020 08:07 PM

I'm really interested in this but don't know anything about filing for the Form 1? Can anyone help? I like building my own stuff. Thanks

98_1LE 01-07-2020 09:16 PM

1. Order fingerprint cards
https://www.atf.gov/distribution-center-order-form

2. Decide exactly what you want to form 1. Overall length and caliber are important. If doing a silencer, I would suggest buying the tube before submitting the form 1. That way you know the OAL. Some say to wait until it is approved, but I disagree. If the tube you want becomes unavailable while your form is approved, as long as you haven't built the NFA device you can get your $200 back (within a reasonable time). And start over.

3. For a silencer decide on the model you will call your silencer and the S/N, will be needed below. If a short barrel rifle or something starting as a title I host, you will use that model and S/N.

4. On your phone download a passport photo app and take a photo of yourself.

5. Create an account and fill out the eform 5320.1 at:
https://eforms.atf.gov

You will need the name of your chief law enforcement officer. I use my city PD chief but it can be a county sheriff etc.

6. Get your prints taken at your local PD using the cards from above.

7. Once you pay the $200 tax online and submit the eform 1 online, you should receive and email. Print the cover letter, then mail it and the prints to the ATF.

8. Wait. The approval comes in email although you can check the website as well. 30 days +/- seems to be typical for efile form 1's.

9. Once your stamp comes back, build the silencer (or other NFA device). I can't give much help as all my cans are commercial. I would suggest using a lathe if you have access, to bore the holes. You want them perfectly centered.

Note you can only build it once. As a maker, you cannot make replacement or upgrade parts. Only an SOT, aka manufacturer, can do that. The ATF considers making new suppressor parts the same as making a new suppressor.

grg 01-07-2020 09:48 PM

Thank you for the info. Do you know?
1. If your building your own suppressor do you have to submit a drawing?
2. Is there a good location that outlines the rules?

Thanks

98_1LE 01-07-2020 09:57 PM

1. No
2. I'll defer to someone else on this one.


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