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sbsyncro 08-25-2019 07:41 PM

Scope or Red Dot...?
 
for about 6 months now, I've been playing around with my X-22 Hunter model TD and decided I can't hit the broad side of a barn with open sights any more (my eyes have gotten bad). I put on a Bushnell TRS-25 red dot that is fine for shooting cans at 25 yards, but the cheap beam pattern is too diffuse to be accurate for small game out to 80 yards or so.

I have a Vortex Venom 3MOA that I might swap over from my 22/45 pistol

https://vortexoptics.com/media/catal...m_moa_fr_w.jpg

or I'm considering a *small* low power scope like the Vortex Crossfire II 1-4x24 (V-Brite).

https://vortexoptics.com/media/catal...b_moa_fr_w.jpg

I like the idea of an illuminated red dot inside of a 1-4 magnification. However, this scope weighs about 15 ounces and is about 10" long so I worry that it will ruin the light, handy ergonomics of the gun that I really cherish...

The other option I'm considering is the Diamondback 1.75-5x32 which weighs about 2 ounces less and is about the same length (but no illuminated dot). Both are around the same price as a Venom red dot ($200-ish).

https://vortexoptics.com/media/catal...2_moa_fr_w.jpg

Any thoughts from others that have faced this dilemma with a TD that you use for hunting?

DGF 08-25-2019 07:48 PM

For little scopes people were using Bug Busters

sbsyncro 08-26-2019 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DGF (Post 11586839)
For little scopes people were using Bug Busters

Not familiar with that brand. I’ll have to check it out. Thanks.

Rick67 08-26-2019 12:46 AM

He is referring to Leapers/UTG Bug Buster scopes which will focus down to 3 yards.

They are popular for airguns.

There is a new 3-12 version that is a side focus in lieu of the usual adjustable objective.

Rick67 08-26-2019 12:51 AM

Another good suggestion is the dwarfish Nikon 3x32 crossbow scope.

It has a parallax setting at 20 yards to infinity.

About $136 shipped with very clear optics.

sbsyncro 08-26-2019 11:30 AM

Thank you for the clarifications!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick67 (Post 11587117)
He is referring to Leapers/UTG Bug Buster scopes which will focus down to 3 yards.

There is a new 3-12 version that is a side focus in lieu of the usual adjustable objective.

Are you referring to this one?
https://www.leapers.com/index.php?ac...OP3-GM3124UMOA

It appears to weigh over 20 ounces and is about 10" long, so I'm assuming that it can't be the one you're referring to...(?)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick67 (Post 11587123)
Another good suggestion is the dwarfish Nikon 3x32 crossbow scope.


About $136 shipped with very clear optics.

Interesting idea. Is this the one you're referring to?

https://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en/...tTabs-Overview

Looks like it weighs about the same as the Vortex options at ~11 oz but is a couple of inches shorter, which would be a big plus. Reading the specs it sounds like parallex is pre-set at 20 yards. I wonder if that is an issue... Also having fixed magnification at 3x might be an issue for some close-in shots . Hmm... choices choices...

Toomany22s 08-26-2019 11:53 AM

Read the ad, it might give you some issues.

1. Look at where the guys head is , itís going to be hard to do that on a 12 lop stock.
2. 1 MOA click adjustments, pretty big compared to 1/4 or 1/8.

It seems like they arenít making many small bodied scopes any more. I got a Nikon 2x7 Rimfire scope on a used gun, that quickly went on a Bl 22, But that model is discontinued, and replaced by something I donít care for.

Nick7274 08-26-2019 01:52 PM

The Vortex Crossfire II 2-7◊ is pretty light and makes a good scope for the TD. You can find them for around $100. If your looking at the Nikon suggested maybe take a look at their fixed power rimfire scopes rather than crossbow scopes.

JTJ 08-26-2019 02:22 PM

I am using a Leupold Freedom VX 1.5-4x20 on the lowest rings I could find. Fits in the bag without removing scope. I installed a Skinner barrel mounted peep designed specifically for the takedown as backup. My rail is grooved so I can see the peep. Mine is in a backpacker stock with the low comb.
https://www.opticsplanet.com/leupold...flescopes.html
You can usually find a coupon for at least 10%.
http://www.skinnersights.com/ruger_firearms_22.html
These are really nice.

bluzman 08-28-2019 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sbsyncro (Post 11587103)
Not familiar with that brand. Iíll have to check it out. Thanks.

Here are my 10/22 and 9mm PCC Takedowns. Both have the UTG 3-9x32mm AO BugBuster scopes mounted. In each case, the rifle can be placed in its storage bag without removing the scope.

10/22 TD
https://i.imgur.com/fNGHujQh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NG3pwclh.jpg

9mm PCC
https://i.imgur.com/rO8fPiIh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zcWAh3fh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ld63Sprh.jpg

linux_author 08-31-2019 06:51 AM

i like my Simmons variable on my stainless TD... holds zero after repeated removals and only cost 1/10th of the rifle...

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ovlGNEOS7...0/IMG_1669.jpg

accuracy is good enough for me:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3OUReXiiM...0/IMG_1630.jpg

i do use cheap red dots on my TD Chargers (cost from $20-$50)... lots of fun on the cheap... i guess if i had to put food on the table i'd go with more expensive optics, but i like rimfire plinking as an inexpensive hobby...

willie
on the Gulf of Mexico

Bullpup-one 08-31-2019 02:01 PM

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OP just do both, I am spendy so you can pick your own optics I use a Leupold 1x14mm Prismatic on a La Rue qd mount and a Leupold vx2 2x7 on a ADM qd mount. Both hold zero well, seconds to switch. I mount what is appropriate for what I am doing at the time.

sbsyncro 08-31-2019 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullpup-one (Post 11592681)
OP just do both, I am spendy so you can pick your own optics I use a Leupold 1x14mm Prismatic on a La Rue qd mount and a Leupold vx2 2x7 on a ADM qd mount. Both hold zero well, seconds to switch. I mount what is appropriate for what I am doing at the time.

Thanks. I like the idea of QD mounts. Maybe with a different rail that will allow use of the sights... more ways to spend $$$.... 🙂

Scrumbag 09-08-2019 05:13 AM

What about a better red dot?

Toomany22s 09-08-2019 05:52 AM

I am having the same conundrum. What scope or red dot for my French Walnut TD? I have a trs 25 on my stainless TD in a MP stock, and it looks appropriate. But on the wood one I want something more classic, less clunky, less tactical. Like the Leupold or Weaver 2x7 s. But as Iím not planning to have this one live in the bag , using the TD as a cleaning feature , not a transport feature, maybe Iíll put a non compact scope on it with qd rings. What to do what to do?:confused:


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