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USCGret 03-11-2019 07:03 PM

...and LATER to the game.
 
Yep, another new .17HMR shooter. Looking for scope recommendations for CZ455 American to be used primarily for punching paper. I have a Leupold 3-9x33 EFR on my CZ452 American....not sure that's optimal for longer range target shooting with .17HMR. Thoughts please?

octanejunkie 03-11-2019 07:05 PM

Look at the Sweet 17 scopes from BSA

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DRob 03-11-2019 07:37 PM

Scopes
 
Gonna' depend upon your eyes. As I get older, I need more magnification. A variable power scope that has a max of around 15X and an adjustable objective should be adequate for the HMR. One of those "hard to beat for the money" scopes is the Mueller APV 4.5-14. Working just fine on a CZ 452 in HMR.

B23 03-11-2019 07:44 PM

I have Leupold Vari X III 4.5-14x40 w/AO on both of my 17 HMR's as well as my 17 WSM. Seems to be a pretty good fit for my use and I've shot some sage rats at pretty decent ranges before.

CH47gunner 03-11-2019 07:46 PM

I've got a Nikon Buckmaster 6-18x40SF on my CZ452 Varmint .17HMR. Great combo.

Sieg 03-11-2019 09:59 PM

Punching paper with a .17 means tiny holes, it takes a good spotting scope to see them at 200yds.

I use an Athlon Ares ETR 4.5-30 x 56 on my .22lr and have been very satisfied. But with less than ideal light 200yds it's tough to spot the shots.

BLOC 03-11-2019 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CH47gunner (Post 11399213)
I've got a Nikon Buckmaster 6-18x40SF on my CZ452 Varmint .17HMR. Great combo.

I have the Nikon 4-16x Monarch scope on my Anschutz 1517 D HB, and the 6-18x Buckmaster on a .223 Stevens 200.

For the money and the use I put them to, both are great scopes.

USCGret 03-12-2019 04:17 AM

Tnx all for the replies and info.

dgeesaman 03-12-2019 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by USCGret (Post 11399141)
Yep, another new .17HMR shooter. Looking for scope recommendations for CZ455 American to be used primarily for punching paper. I have a Leupold 3-9x33 EFR on my CZ452 American....not sure that's optimal for longer range target shooting with .17HMR. Thoughts please?

If your gun can do 1/2 moa at 100y, you'll want a bit more magnification. If you want to see holes in paper at 100y, you'll want a good clear 24x.

And yet at 9x that Leupold will probably shoot equal groups to the bigger glass. If you're not dedicated to punching paper at 100+ yards, it will be excellent.

tbates66 03-13-2019 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by USCGret (Post 11399141)
Yep, another new .17HMR shooter. Looking for scope recommendations for CZ455 American to be used primarily for punching paper. I have a Leupold 3-9x33 EFR on my CZ452 American....not sure that's optimal for longer range target shooting with .17HMR. Thoughts please?

Your scope is good for squirrels and such, but since you want to try longer shots, more magnification would be preferred. No sure what you mean by "longer range". Even with a 24X or a good spotting scope, those tiny holes are hard to see at, say, 200. I have a Bushnell Elite 6-24X on a .204 and seeing that size hole is not easy at 200; I can't imagine seeing the HMR at that range. I can manage seeing 100 yd holes with my spotting scope. I would be interested in hearing about your experience. BTW, I have Leupold 3i 3.5-10X on both of my HMRs, which is a good option for prairie dogs, but that's not your target. Also have a Bushnell Elite 4500 4-16X on a 17Mach2 and can see the 100 yd holes with it. Good luck and have fun.

USCGret 03-13-2019 10:48 AM

Thank you tbates 66 for the good advice. I'm thinking 200 yards as the 'longer range'...punching paper primarily. I'm exploring options with help from the RFC members. I'll post results when I have something. Tnx again.

Sieg 03-13-2019 04:31 PM

If you're primarily punching paper I'd go 4.5 to 24-30. Depending on the age/condition of your eyes, fatigue sets in pretty quick when trying to shoot little holes.

When I shoot my Vortex 4-16 Diamondback HP scopes at the range my eyes go south pretty quick compared to the Athlon Ares ETR 4.5-40 on my Vudoo.

Something to consider if you're spending 2-3 hours or more in the scope at the range. Can't hit what you can't focus on. :D

plumas 03-14-2019 07:40 AM

That 'eye and age' thing is worth thinking about...I remember the first scope I used that had a parallax adjustment turret. never liked the look of all that stuff on a scope tube but I'm sold now.

At a 200 yard range I note that turret is set at 125 for a clear focus for me.
My scopes without that 3rd turret are okay but even at longer ranges they just can't pull in that customized super crisp focus the way the 3 turret scopes can.
Just shows the individual focus ability...the number is nothing, set it where it works and it'll really relax your eyes.

I 2nd Vortex or Athlon for brands, have both and they just seem a bit crisper view even with their entry level models than my hunting scopes (2 turret high end Redfield and older Scope Chief Bushnell models).

Whatever you settle on that 3rd turret is a must, I won't be without it now..happy shopping.

USCGret 03-14-2019 08:29 AM

Tnx again for the replies---all good ideas and info.

tbates66 03-14-2019 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by USCGret (Post 11399141)
Yep, another new .17HMR shooter. Looking for scope recommendations for CZ455 American to be used primarily for punching paper. I have a Leupold 3-9x33 EFR on my CZ452 American....not sure that's optimal for longer range target shooting with .17HMR. Thoughts please?

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Originally Posted by plumas (Post 11402165)
That 'eye and age' thing is worth thinking about...I remember the first scope I used that had a parallax adjustment turret. never liked the look of all that stuff on a scope tube but I'm sold now.

At a 200 yard range I note that turret is set at 125 for a clear focus for me.
My scopes without that 3rd turret are okay but even at longer ranges they just can't pull in that customized super crisp focus the way the 3 turret scopes can.
Just shows the individual focus ability...the number is nothing, set it where it works and it'll really relax your eyes.

I 2nd Vortex or Athlon for brands, have both and they just seem a bit crisper view even with their entry level models than my hunting scopes (2 turret high end Redfield and older Scope Chief Bushnell models).

Whatever you settle on that 3rd turret is a must, I won't be without it now..happy shopping.

This is a good suggestion. I assume the "3rd turret" is an AO focus. I like the side focus; much easier to adjust and maintain your viewing. The front AO focus works, but is a bit of a nuisance. I have both front AO and side focus. The side is better. Also don't forget the rear focus. It can help sightly too.


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