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TnTnTn 11-19-2016 08:18 PM

Hornady Critical Defense 45g
 
Yeah man!-back order from Sportsman Guide came in today. Hopefully .22mag ammo is starting to come back.
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...pslbkxdwo9.jpg[/URL]

john the plinker 11-19-2016 11:02 PM

:bthumb: Good, maybe now I'll be able to find some of this. Been able to find some of the V-max the last month or so but the CD is what I use for yotes.

dobber212 12-29-2016 06:18 PM

Hornady Critical Defense up at Cabela's, $14.99/50. Limit 2.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoot...12&WT.tsrc=AFF

FyrepowrX 01-12-2017 02:46 PM

I have been shooting the Critical Defense in a couple of my WMR's & have been happy with accuracy & performance.

Have also noticed it is not overly destructive on small game even with body shots.... have yet to shoot 'yotes or larger stuff with them but have taken them squirrel hunting several times with good results.

SWUtah 01-12-2017 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FyrepowrX (Post 7923690)
I have been shooting the Critical Defense in a couple of my WMR's & have been happy with accuracy & performance.

Have also noticed it is not overly destructive on small game even with body shots.... have yet to shoot 'yotes or larger stuff with them but have taken them squirrel hunting several times with good results.

It's loaded down to 22LR velocities, so expect it to have similar terminal ballistics.

TnTnTn 01-12-2017 08:32 PM

According to Hornady, the 45g CD is advertised as producing 1700 fps from a 24" barrel. Even allowing for manufacturer's optimism and a 18-20" rifle barrel that will significantly best .22 lr performance. Plus found this chart:
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...ps0279ea0e.jpg

timberbeast 01-12-2017 11:57 PM

Love the stuff in my PMR-30. :t

Armadillos jump once but don't run after a center of mass hit.

polarys425 01-13-2017 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWUtah (Post 7924234)
It's loaded down to 22LR velocities, so expect it to have similar terminal ballistics.


But, but it's on the internet, so it must be true.....not.

john the plinker 01-13-2017 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWUtah (Post 7924234)
It's loaded down to 22LR velocities, so expect it to have similar terminal ballistics.

Not hardly. It was original primary use was in small self defense handguns so a lot of the velocity numbers use a 2" barrel vs. most 22lr numbers using a 16+" barrel.
My personal experience is that the velocity is actually a little higher than what Hornady has listed.

whichfinger 01-14-2017 08:59 AM

A comprehensive comparison in 3 1/2", 5 1/2", and 18 1/4" barrels here: https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=421819

montveil 01-14-2017 09:11 AM

crit def
 
So am I to assume that the critical defense is really designed for hand guns?
It would make sense if the powders are such to obtain faster burning for short barrels.
If this is so, why test them in long guns?

FyrepowrX 01-14-2017 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montveil (Post 7935234)
So am I to assume that the critical defense is really designed for hand guns?
It would make sense if the powders are such to obtain faster burning for short barrels.
If this is so, why test them in long guns?

i suspect the main difference us not in the powder burn rate but rather bullet design; with the .22mag not being a powerhouse, i think they optimized bullet design to take advantage of the available power by using a projectile that will hold together and penetrate , but which will still expand at slower pistol speeds.

in my case, i tried 'em as hunting rounds because i have 20 boxes of them & wanted to see if they were less destructive on small game...when squirrel hunting, they penetrate more & are less destructive than some of the various HP and lightweight tipped WMR loads..... since we get quite a few hogs in some of the areas i squirrel hunt, i wanted deeper punch when taking body shots.

Sun Tzu warrior 01-14-2017 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montveil (Post 7935234)
So am I to assume that the critical defense is really designed for hand guns?
It would make sense if the powders are such to obtain faster burning for short barrels.
If this is so, why test them in long guns?

That would be correct.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=.22+wmr...barrel&pc=MOZI

STW

montveil 01-15-2017 09:27 AM

That make sense.
I wonder if there are any noticeable advantages over 50 grain HP out of a rifle?
Thanks

john the plinker 01-15-2017 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whichfinger (Post 7935114)
A comprehensive comparison in 3 1/2", 5 1/2", and 18 1/4" barrels here: https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=421819

Your figures are real close to what I got, IIRC I got 1770 avg for 5 shots.


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