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DrGunner 07-30-2015 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmont (Post 5442607)
DrGunner:

As a new rimfire participant (perhaps addict would be more descriptive), I really appreciate all the effort you put into sharing these great ideas.
Very well done. :bthumb:
Tom

Tom- Thanks!!! PM me your shipping addy and I will send you a free set (minus the brush puller, I'm all out of them right now). I will send you a few of the Patchsnake button pullers, a Jagsnake, and a brass Gunner finger loop chamber brush and mop.

Welcome to RFC!!!

Sincerely,

DrGunner

tmont 08-02-2015 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrGunner (Post 5443444)
Tom- Thanks!!! PM me your shipping addy and I will send you a free set (minus the brush puller, I'm all out of them right now). I will send you a few of the Patchsnake button pullers, a Jagsnake, and a brass Gunner finger loop chamber brush and mop.

Welcome to RFC!!!

Sincerely,

DrGunner


That would be great.
I surely did not expect that, I was simply saying thanks for sharing your great ideas.
Tom

DrGunner 08-03-2015 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmont (Post 5446611)
That would be great.
I surely did not expect that, I was simply saying thanks for sharing your great ideas.
Tom

No problem. I will get them out some time this week-
Enjoy, and share any feedback/suggestions.

Always open to ways to improve them.

Regards,

DrGunner

gunsmither 08-04-2015 03:49 PM

Good source for 3/16" diameter brass rod
 
Great tutorial Dr.G! You can get 6 foot pieces of brass from Enco, and cut them up to length for your great tools. Many times they have free shipping too. Right now they have a deal going for free shipping with just a $29 purchase. Brass in on sale too! Enter free shipping Promo Code: AUG29 | Offer Ends 8/31/15.

Brass link -

http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...&PARTPG=INLMPI

DrGunner 08-04-2015 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunsmither (Post 5448099)
Great tutorial Dr.G! You can get 6 foot pieces of brass from Enco, and cut them up to length for your great tools. Many times they have free shipping too. Right now they have a deal going for free shipping with just a $29 purchase. Brass in on sale too! Enter free shipping Promo Code: AUG29 | Offer Ends 8/31/15.

Brass link -

http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...&PARTPG=INLMPI

That's high praise coming from you, the Original inventor of all the best 10-22 gadgets! I use my Gunsmither tools often!

Thanks for the link for the brass, that will be a much cheaper route!

Regards,

DrGunner

sunkmail 08-05-2015 04:05 AM

Gonna give it a try ....
 
Thanks for all the great info here.

I'm going to give it a go myself, once I get all the pieces gathered - I'm a new shooter, so I'm still figuring out what I want/need.

Cheers!

hankh 08-08-2015 12:05 AM

Dr. Gunner, Howdy;

Thanks for the PMs. Just completed reading this entire thread plus the side-trip
for the muzzle guide. This has been bookmarked for future reference.
Living in an RV has it's drawbacks and kindly offered gifts are greatly appreciated.

hank

M4Strider 09-05-2015 05:44 PM

Hi Gunnar, have you ever tried putting one of the VFG felt pellets on the Patchsnake line and using that rather than a regular cotton patch?

I personally use them on a rod but I think it would work just as well in a pull through setup.

DrGunner 09-05-2015 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M4Strider (Post 5474318)
Hi Gunnar, have you ever tried putting one of the VFG felt pellets on the Patchsnake line and using that rather than a regular cotton patch?

I personally use them on a rod but I think it would work just as well in a pull through setup.

Yes, I have- and it's difficult. The trimmer line has to be thick enough to support a good size button through thousands of pulls. The trick is getting a hole drilled in the center of the felt pellet just so, to prevent it splitting. It's also tough because the volume of material in the line expands the pellet for a super tight fit in the bore- often too tight.

Truth is, when the button is made to the right size, a flannel patch creates a very tight fit with an audible squeegee action. I usually have 2 button pullers made specifically for each rifle- one loose, one very tight. The diameter of the button is usually .200-.210. No two barrels are the same, and a button that's tight in one bore might be loose in others.

The pellets sound like a good idea, but in actual practical use, they're more trouble than the benefit they provide. You will waste many by the hole tearing through the side of the felt. If you go with lighter line, the button won't last- especially when exposed to the high tension created by a felt pellet.

Trust me, a flannel patch on a .210" button does a darn good job, cleaning better than a boresnake in fewer passes.

By all means, please do experiment with pellets, and report any pertinent info here-

DrGunner

DrGunner 09-05-2015 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M4Strider (Post 5474318)
Hi Gunnar, have you ever tried putting one of the VFG felt pellets on the Patchsnake line and using that rather than a regular cotton patch?

I personally use them on a rod but I think it would work just as well in a pull through setup.

I just had a thought... The VFG pellets are designed for use on their proprietary thread in jag... It would likely be feasible to cut the threads off of a jag, drill it, chamfer it, and affix a line. That setup might work very well...

DrGunner

M4Strider 09-06-2015 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrGunner (Post 5474341)
Yes, I have- and it's difficult. The trimmer line has to be thick enough to support a good size button through thousands of pulls. The trick is getting a hole drilled in the center of the felt pellet just so, to prevent it splitting. It's also tough because the volume of material in the line expands the pellet for a super tight fit in the bore- often too tight.

Truth is, when the button is made to the right size, a flannel patch creates a very tight fit with an audible squeegee action. I usually have 2 button pullers made specifically for each rifle- one loose, one very tight. The diameter of the button is usually .200-.210. No two barrels are the same, and a button that's tight in one bore might be loose in others.

The pellets sound like a good idea, but in actual practical use, they're more trouble than the benefit they provide. You will waste many by the hole tearing through the side of the felt. If you go with lighter line, the button won't last- especially when exposed to the high tension created by a felt pellet.

Trust me, a flannel patch on a .210" button does a darn good job, cleaning better than a boresnake in fewer passes.

By all means, please do experiment with pellets, and report any pertinent info here-

DrGunner

Unfortunately I don't have one of your tools but I can see what you mean when you say the line would expand the pellet as it's passed through:)

Racer X 01-07-2016 04:34 AM

If you purchase a ParchWorm from our forum sponsor, they sell them with the felt buttons, or you can by them separately That tells me the VFG pellets should work fine. http://patchworm.com/patches-felts.html

goodoldfriend 08-17-2016 02:55 PM

I am very late to the party but wanted to say thanks for the great article!

Now I need to get my workshop cleaned up.

Texcam 09-30-2016 04:37 PM

Dr. Gunner
Thanks for taking the time to create such a detailed post. Great Idea!

OCD 07-27-2017 02:07 PM

Has anyone made or "invented" a limited breech pull through brush?

For pistols like the Ruger Mk series, Browning Buckmark etc??

The Otis limited breech brush (with small threads) on their 177 cal wire doesn't even fit!

I called them and they are phasing that out and may be making one that will work?

I would rather make my own. I have the trimmer line and can pull patches but would like a brush also.

Any ideas?


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