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model34 01-01-2011 03:33 PM

.22 mag ammo
 
Can anyone suggest a good .22 mag ammo for my SS. I understand .22 mag ammo is loaded for rifles, so what's the starting point for revo's?

Thanks in advance to you all experts

The Old Redneck 01-01-2011 04:07 PM

Try different ammo
 
I own several and Winchester ammo works ok in all of them. Each gun and person is different, like the Ford and Chevy debate thing. Shoot some of everything off a bench on paper and see what you do best with in your gun. So far all of mine shoot the old Winchester Dyna points well. They are cheap and work for what I use them for. Some people hate them and shoot other stuff. The Winchester 40 grain hollow point load works in a lot of guns and is only a couple of dollars more.

Tommie D 01-01-2011 05:08 PM

Here's a list for you!. I posted this over in the .22 WMR Ammo section the other day.

Here is a list of current .22WMR & .22WRF ammo I made up. It may or may not be correct or complete but it's close. I guess I should have used a spread sheet or something but I'm not that computer smart.

.22 Whinchester Magnum Rimfire (.22WMR)


Armscor
.22WMR 40gr JHP
.22WMR 40gr JSP
.22WMR 40gr FMJ

Bitterroot Valley
BV22M-1N .22WMR 42gr JHP

CCI
0022 Game Point 40gr JSP
0023 Maxi-Mag 40gr TMJ
0024 Maxi-Mag 40gr TNT JHP
0025 Maxi-Mag 52gr #12 Shot
0059 Maxi-Mag +V 30gr TNT JHP
0060 TNT GREEN 30gr TNT GREEN HP
0063 Maxi-Mag 30gr TNT JHP
0073 V-MAX 30gr Poly-Tip V-MAX

Federal
P765 .22WMR 30gr Speer TNT HP
737 .22WMR 40gr FMJ
757 .22WMR 50gr JHP

Fiocchi
22WMA .22WMR 40gr JSP
22WMB .22WMR 40gr JHP

Hornady
83202 .22WMR 30gr V-MAX
83201 .22WMR ? NXT

Remington
R22M1 .22WMR 40gr JHP
R22M2 .22WMR 40gr PSP
PR22M1 .22WMR 33gr AccuTip-V

RWS
2133075 .22WMR 40gr FMJ
2133083 .22WMR 40gr SP

Sellier & Bollot
SB35513 .22WMR 45gr ?
SB35520 .22WMR 40gr JHP
SB35521 .22WMR 40gr FMJ

Winchester
X22MHLF Super-X 28gr JHP-Tin
X22M Super-X 40gr FMJ
X22MH Super-X 40gr JHP
S22M2 Supreme 30gr JHP
S22WM Supreme 34gr JHP
USA22M Wildcat 45gr Dynapoint Plated



.22 Winchester Rimfire (.22WRF)

CCI
0069 WRF 45gr TNT JHP

Winchester
22WRF Wildcat 45gr LFN

Lefty Dude 01-01-2011 05:51 PM

My RSS's likes Winchester ammo, I have three of them.

For plinking and general purpose I like the Winchester 22 mag. Dynapoints. They are 45 gr. copper washed lead, not jacketed.

For serious shooting I break out the Winchester Super X Supremes. These are the most accurate 22 mag. I have found that shoot well in the RSS.

Most 22 mag. are designed for Rifles and do not shoot well in short barrels. Not so with the above Winchester's.

CraigC 01-02-2011 12:53 PM

Nonsense. Cartridges are loaded with powder appropriate to the cartridge, not the firearm. The same powders that will yield the highest velocities in rifles will also yield the highest velocities in handguns. That is, the same type of slow burning powders used in magnum revolver cartridges. That said, your typical 40gr .22Mag load will run around 1400fps out of a revolver.

Camino 01-02-2011 02:28 PM

My Single Six's do not like the lighter bullets as well as my S&W M48 and I've tried a lot of it. Your gun might just love them. I'd start out with WW 40gr SuperX and/or CCI Maxi Mags, either in HP or solid. I believe it will at least give you a good baseline to compare the lighter weight bullets. I have some Federal Champion 40gr FMJ's and their 50gr JHP Game-Shock's I havn't tried yet.

Finding out what shoots best in a .22 mag handgun can get expensive. If I were to recommend only one to start with, it would be the 40gr WW's.

model34 01-02-2011 02:43 PM

Thanks Guys , I picked up some WW ammo today (SuperX & Dynapoints)

noshow 01-13-2011 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigC (Post 3247635)
Nonsense. Cartridges are loaded with powder appropriate to the cartridge, not the firearm. The same powders that will yield the highest velocities in rifles will also yield the highest velocities in handguns. That is, the same type of slow burning powders used in magnum revolver cartridges. That said, your typical 40gr .22Mag load will run around 1400fps out of a revolver.

Not if the manufacturer wanted to load a basic rifle cartridge to more user friendly levels for use in revolvers. Sorry to disagree:)

CraigC 01-14-2011 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noshow (Post 3268484)
Not if the manufacturer wanted to load a basic rifle cartridge to more user friendly levels for use in revolvers. Sorry to disagree:)

No. Like I said, the same powders will yield the highest velocities in both handguns and rifles. Typically something along the lines of H110/296 or Lil Gun. Not sure what exactly "user friendly" means in this context.

Lefty Dude 01-14-2011 01:42 PM

Try the Remington V-Max 22 mags, in your RSS and see how they group.

Not so good in mine. They might shoot great in a Rifle.

smokey 01-14-2011 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigC (Post 3269620)
No. Like I said, the same powders will yield the highest velocities in both handguns and rifles. Typically something along the lines of H110/296 or Lil Gun. Not sure what exactly "user friendly" means in this context.

I also have to disagree. You said in your first post that manufacturers used the same slow burning powders for both handguns and rifles. H110 is an extremely fast burning powder designed for shorter barrels (handguns).

Lefty Dude 01-14-2011 04:47 PM

Winchester developed 296 for the 410 Shotgun shells. And Yes it is a very fine handgun powder as well as for 22 Hornet loading.
It might well be used for the 22 mag.

glee 01-15-2011 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigC (Post 3269620)
No. Like I said, the same powders will yield the highest velocities in both handguns and rifles. Typically something along the lines of H110/296 or Lil Gun. Not sure what exactly "user friendly" means in this context.

He means that ammunition manufacturers will sometimes tailor a load for a specific purpose such as short barrels to reduce excessive muzzle flash and blast (the user friendly part) or otherwise optimize performance. In the center-fire world some .38 loads and at least one .357 load were designed for the 2" guns. (Speer .38 135gr Gold Dot, Remington .357 125gr Golden Sabre)

Here is a quote from the Hornady site on their Critical Defense line...

The 22 WMR delivers terminal performance from a short-barreled firearm comparable to the 380 Auto Critical Defense load.

Powder
Optimized for short-barreled firearms, the 22 WMR features clean burning propellants with low flash and blast to help protect night vision.

CraigC 01-15-2011 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokey (Post 3269807)
I also have to disagree. You said in your first post that manufacturers used the same slow burning powders for both handguns and rifles. H110 is an extremely fast burning powder designed for shorter barrels (handguns).

H110 is not "extremely fast". Bullseye is extremely fast burning. It's all relative and for a cartridge like the .22Mag and any magnum revolver cartridge, H110/296 and Lil Gun are slow burning powders. They happen to be the same slow burning powders that yield the highest velocities in both handguns and rifles, regardless of barrel length. A cartridge like the .22Mag is not really a "rifle cartrige", in that it will never utilize rifle powders. Just as you do not typically use rifle powders in cartridges like the .22Hornet or .218Bee. Highest velocities are usually achieved with H110/296 and Lil Gun. The same powders that yield the highest velocities in revolvers.

The .22Mag numbers correlate nicely with .357, .41 and .44Mag numbers. Plan on a 400-500fps gain in the .357 and a 300-400fps gain for the others. All tend to peak in around 18-20" barrels. Just like the .22Mag. A 40gr .22Mag load runs 1400fps from a handgun and 1900fps from a rifle.

They have special factory loads for short barrels in .38Spl because H110/296 are not applicable to the cartridge. Pressures are not high enough. However, move up to a 2" .44Mag or .454 Ruger Alaskan and the same results occur, H110/296 and Lil Gun yield the highest velocities. This ain't rocket science.

noshow 01-17-2011 07:29 AM

New 22WMR Offerings
 
Both Hornady and Speer have announced new 22Mag loadings intended for use in short barreled revolvers. Here's a link to the RFC discussion already in progress:

https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...35#post3274235


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