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dallee 09-16-2019 10:26 AM

Browning SA 22 Grade 3
 
Guys, got a friend at work who has this Browning. Its one of the most beautiful guns I've ever seen.

It is almost 100% perfect with the original case and key. One very minor ding on the stock where a guy at the range shot his 45 and the case hit the stock. Again its very minor.

This was my friends mother's gun.

So what is it? What can you tell us about it? Anyone know what a value on something like this would be?


Thanks for your help!

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OldWolf 09-16-2019 11:52 AM

It's a nice example of this rifle...
 
BROWNING SA-22 22 LR Grade 3

https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=100858863

jstanfield103 09-16-2019 02:05 PM

Wow, and I do mean WOW. What a Beautiful rifle. Thanks for posting.

dallee 09-16-2019 02:21 PM

Thanks gentlemen. If that ad for one selling is anything telling, my friend has a little gold mine on his hands.

Camster 09-16-2019 02:21 PM

A nice complete gun.
 
I've owned a few.
Mid to late 60s Grade III .Belgian of course,though they did build Grade III guns in Japan in the 70s.
Case is probably original to the gun and pre69,
In this world, the name of the engraver matters. It should be signed on both sides of the receiver.(ps-I enlarged the photo and I'm not seeing a signature on the right side.)
Sold my new in box 1965 example for about 4200 last year.

The ding hurts collector value,(if truly minor, not so much.After all,these guns are more than 50 years old,so?) as does fired status,if it is indeed fired. Collectors want a box or case with these, however the case alone would bring 400-500

desertmoon 09-16-2019 06:25 PM

I have a similar Grade II in the same case. I adore it!!!! They are a cut above, I will tell ya!

Tailwheel 09-16-2019 08:18 PM

This grade is one of my grail guns. So beautiful and the SA-22 is such a sweet shooter. Excellent example here. Thank you for sharing

OldWolf 09-17-2019 08:02 AM

Are you going to try to buy it from him?

Camster 09-17-2019 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desertmoon (Post 11610407)
I have a similar Grade II in the same case. I adore it!!!! They are a cut above, I will tell ya!

Had an exceptional Grade II myself. I think that I miss it more than the Grade III.
Anyway, both now reside in your state.

I6turbo 09-17-2019 01:12 PM

I can tell you that your are correct in calling it a BEAUTIFUL gun. :)

I have a 1970 model that is just the simple Grade I, but I like it a lot. I'm a "shoot 'em if you got 'em" guy, but if I had one like that Grade III that actually hadn't been fired, it might test my resolve. :)

MN22LRFan 10-01-2019 03:22 PM

Engraver ?
 
Camster - the rifle referenced on GI seems to have only one engraver signature, on the left side, and a different engraving pattern on the trigger guard. Could that and the lack of a signature on the OP's rifle be considered a running change for a grade III ? Thanks !

C.C. 10-01-2019 08:41 PM

OOoo...Jealousy is such a negative emotion! Beautiful!:)

M2HB 10-01-2019 09:37 PM

Too bad it has the ding and has been fired.

That is one awesome looking rifle.

alruner 10-02-2019 07:07 AM

That is a beautiful example of a classic. If you want to find out who engraved it, Homer Tyler's
book "Browning .22 Caliber Rifles 1914-1984" gives a few examples from different engravers that did not sign their work. It is not a complete list, but you may find it helpful. Additionally, it is a bonus that you have the case. The "Hartman" style (White Insert in handle) from approx. 1960 - 1964 were 9" x 23 3/4 .. Post 1964 cases measured 9 1/2 x 27 1/2 and provided room for the scope. I do not know when They stopped using the white insert "Hartman" cases.
I have a copy of Homer Tyler's book and as a former avid Browning .22 collector I found it extremely helpful.

Great little .22!!!

Camster 10-03-2019 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MN22LRFan (Post 11625199)
Camster - the rifle referenced on GI seems to have only one engraver signature, on the left side, and a different engraving pattern on the trigger guard. Could that and the lack of a signature on the OP's rifle be considered a running change for a grade III ? Thanks !

Both rifles are fairly close in vintage.
I think that the difference in the tg engraving is just the engraver adding a little of his own individuality to it.

It was up to the engraver if they signed their work and how many times.
Early guns were often unsigned and later guns double signed,so it's not related to age.
Collectors prefer a double signed gun,as it confirms that one engraver did the whole gun. (However, I have no reason to think that multiple engravers did the Grade III .22s, but with some other high grades, more than one had a hand in the job.)


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