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Bvrhntr 05-14-2019 06:45 AM

These plastic tip bullets
 
Im shooting a Savage 17 wsm 25 grain winchester bullets. I shoot alot of beavers i have shot some in the head and it seems to me the bullet explodes and doesnt penetrate and the swim off. Anyone have this issue? And does anyone know if they make a FMJ bullet? Thank you.

micdundee 05-14-2019 06:49 AM

CCI has a round especially designed for the Savage. A17.

Bvrhntr 05-14-2019 07:20 AM

They do make FMJ bullets for the HMR i think the A17 is an HMR. i need a harder bullet for the 17wsm.

Al the Infidel 05-14-2019 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bvrhntr (Post 11480283)
Im shooting a Savage 17 wsm 25 grain winchester bullets. I shoot alot of beavers i have shot some in the head and it seems to me the bullet explodes and doesnt penetrate and the swim off.

That has me scratching my head if you're shooting em in the right spot in their noggins. They should be DRT.

Welcome to RFC BV!!

Bvrhntr 05-14-2019 10:23 AM

I shot one last Saturday hit him in the head he swam a circle came out of the water and shook his head then i i shot him again in the head and he finally did the death paddle.

Bvrhntr 05-14-2019 10:25 AM

Anyone ever cut the plastic tips off the bullets? Maybe then it wouldnt expand and it would penetrate more. Like a FMJ? I dont know just thinking out loud haha.

Al the Infidel 05-14-2019 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bvrhntr (Post 11480461)
Anyone ever cut the plastic tips off the bullets? Maybe then it wouldnt expand and it would penetrate more. Like a FMJ? I dont know just thinking out loud haha.

I did it and the accuracy went really south.

jaia 05-14-2019 01:20 PM

Hunting dam-builders isn't something I've ever done.
Do they require long distance daylight accuracy or can you hunt at night?
At short range the 22wmr fmj will punch through that skull.

No 17wsm fmj or jsp available at this time.

Gomizzou 05-14-2019 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bvrhntr (Post 11480461)
Anyone ever cut the plastic tips off the bullets? Maybe then it wouldnt expand and it would penetrate more. Like a FMJ? I dont know just thinking out loud haha.

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/winc...20-p-4184.aspx

Al the Infidel 05-14-2019 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Al the Infidel (Post 11480545)
I did it and the accuracy went really south.

Actually I pulled the tips out entirely, didn't nip em off.

bobnoffs 05-15-2019 07:38 AM

i would really like to see a pic of the bullet wound only going as deep as the skull. intact, pieces or tiny frgments they are still going 2000 fps. my 22/250 turns to dust when it hits an egg but those bullets still punch thru 3/8'' steel plate.

Bvrhntr 05-15-2019 07:57 AM

Yes i wanted to retreive that beaver i had hit 3 times just to see. I will next time and i will try to put some pics on.

shootbrownelk 05-15-2019 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bvrhntr (Post 11481385)
Yes i wanted to retreive that beaver i had hit 3 times just to see. I will next time and i will try to put some pics on.

Are you using the CCI Gamepoints? I use them on Jacks, Cottontails and Sod Poodles. They work great for me.

Bvrhntr 05-15-2019 12:29 PM

I think them CCI gamepoints are only for thw HMR i need them for the WSM.

B23 05-15-2019 01:18 PM

Something about this just doesn't seem quite right to me.

I'll admit I am no beaver expert by any means, but a beavers head isn't all that big and I can't imagine they have some kind of exceptionally thick skull, so it just doesn't seem very reasonable, at least to me, that just about any head shot on a beaver with a 17 WSM wouldn't be lethal. Unless, the shot was off its mark and was maybe just a graze, in which case that would be on the shooter, not necessarily a bullet issue.

I've had shots that just barely grazed the head of sage rats before and watched them run in circles like they were having some kind of LSD freakout episode, but that wasn't the fault of the bullets construction.


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