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littletoes 05-24-2013 09:13 PM

Marlin 25 Scope/Base Questions
 
Anyone know of a product like DIP picatinny rail that would fit a Marlin model #25? Just not having any luck with rimfire rings "staying" in place in a hunting situation with full sized scopes, such as a 3-9X40mm.

Thanks in advance everyone!

jagwire 05-24-2013 11:33 PM

What rings have you used? Was the surface cleaned to remove all oil? I have a 4-16x40 AO mounted on mine with a set of cheap rings that came with another inexpensive scope. Been rock solid.

katman 05-25-2013 01:36 AM

I've never had any ring creep on either my 25N or my Glenfield 25, and I just use the factory dovetails with 3-9x32 scopes.

littletoes 05-25-2013 11:12 AM

Warne .22 rings, like the link shows below;

http://www.opticsplanet.com/warne-22...ish-41662.html

They just slip off, as we've been shooting. Everything is clean, new looking even, the rings just don't seem to "fit" the dovetail. I've thought of filing the rings engagement points to see if they will then grip a bit better. They seem a bit "rounded" to fit the dovetail properly.

Not sure.

katman 05-25-2013 03:07 PM

I think you need to try some different rings, then. I've got an old set of Weaver rings on my 25N, and the G25 has the factory rings that came with the Barska scope. Neither one has shown any creep. Even during transport.

alum572 05-25-2013 03:47 PM

Great set of rings for most .22 grooved receivers and priced right. Never had any slip. Weaver #49192 available at Walmart.

shootrj2003 12-06-2013 08:53 AM

Either your rings don't engage the slots properly ( I had to "sharpen" the claws on a pair for my Marlin 25)I am not sure what brand rings but they look very similar.OR the grooves are not deep enough(unlikely)BUT my 25's grooves are very fine also which is why I had to "sharpen" the claws.i did this by working the bottoms on successive grades of wet or dry paper from 220 to 600 keep the flat bottoms level and measure them to keep both rings the same .If you can mount them on a 1" round bar close to each other and in proper alignment with each other it will help keep them matching.After I did mine they held like they were welded.
I know this is an older post but maybe you or someone else can use the info.

littletoes 12-06-2013 09:06 PM

I can use it!

Think I'll do a bit of filing/sanding, like you suggest-when I get the time. Hate to throw away a well made set of rings. I've had luck with anything else "Warne", and they have always come through with prizes during matches.

Thanks for the input! It confirms what I was thinking. ;)

shootrj2003 12-09-2013 01:03 PM

It is wierd,but after I posted I decided to glass bed and scope my old Springfield Moel 120 ( a renamed 15 y) I believe,it was my very first rifle and I have not used it for a long time so long that it was rattling in the stock lose as a goose! It needed bedding.when I was done with that I tried to put a scoe on it with some rings- of compromised quality and cost-and they would not mount the grooves on that rifle were very fine and shallow,I was going to do it to them but I found a pair of Weaver tip -off rings these were made better with finer "claws "and grabbed really well so I used them but I will work the others down like I described.the grooves are nowadays 3/8" but a great deal of difference in depth is evident between rifles.i have an old JC Higgens Mod.34 semi and the grooves are not even 3/8" more like 5/16" I got around that by making copper shims to fold around the grooves to enlarge them ,I still have it that way.

skylerbone 12-11-2013 11:33 AM

I'm not at all familiar with the Model 25's dimensions but is there some reason that a DIP rail would not fit with perhaps a single cut for length to accommodate centering the ejection port? Since mounting one on my 25N I've seen far better groups than before, might be worth the coin to try.

shootrj2003 12-18-2013 10:58 PM

You know I have heard of the dip things but I am not acquainted with them at all nor have I even seen one can you post a pic? Sorry I have not kept up!

shootrj2003 12-18-2013 11:04 PM

Alright I checked them out ,I guess they just slide up the dovetails- cool idea it shoul work.

jimbobjam 12-18-2013 11:49 PM

I think these would work really well, but you'd have to check the dimensions: http://www.bkltech.com/BKL-1-Bolt-Ac...-p/bkl-261.htm

skylerbone 12-19-2013 11:29 AM

DIP rail on my Marlin 25N.

http://i.imgur.com/RL13bfdl.jpg

DIP rail on a Savage Cub.

http://i.imgur.com/9pq19Zml.jpg

Just a 1-piece 1913 rail (picatinny) with the ejection port milled out. It does indeed slide into the receiver's dovetail, using 4 machine screws through the top to tension it in place. Very secure for those receivers that aren't drilled and tapped but can also be used for those that are with a separate set of screws.

shootrj2003 12-25-2013 12:26 AM

Is the DIP a specific brand of mount or is it just a method of mounting?I ask because I saw a similar set up mount,( it slides along the grooves and then fastens with screws for tension) it was down at my local Gander Mt. On the board with all the similar type scope mounts( it might be an "Uncle Mike's "display)I did not notice the brand name but the price for the adapter I am referring to was about $10.00 and adapted the tip off grooves for Weaver-Picatinny mounts.Same thing?
That's such a simple idea ,I don't know why it was not invented a long time ago.


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