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Old 11-17-2007, 05:35 AM
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1) What size rod do you guys use to clean your CZ? I have a coated .22 rod (dewey) that won't even go into the barrel, and an uncoated rod that does go in.

2) What kind of attachment do you use for patches? I have one of those pointy thingies that won't push a patch through the barrel if the patch is centered on the tip.

3) I have a .22 cal brush attachment that doesn't seem to want to go into the barrel either.

How hard should I have to work to push a patch or a brush through the barrel?
I'm thinking maybe a .20 caliber rod would be better. Any thoughts?
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Old 11-17-2007, 05:54 AM
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Mate had the same problem with my CZ ultra lux.
The plastic coated rods were being spriped through to the steel even when i used my bore guide. Now use a Parker hale 22 cal rod with the plastic removed & it works well.
Im sure the 20 cal rod would work fine & the pointed jags are great.
those cz barrels are just so tight but i guess thats why they shoot so well.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:16 AM
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I use a bore snake made for the .17 in my .22, it does a great job.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:19 AM
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I use a .17 Dewey rod with a Proshot .22 rimfire brush (need an adapter between the two). Works great. You should have to push quite firmly, w/ my long barrel I use 1 hand to keep the rod from bowing. A bore guide would help a little. A rimfire brush will do the trick.

Trim the patch. Square patches have more area than circular patches. Round patches for rimfire, square for .223, depending on brand, thickness, etc. Took some experimentation.

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Old 11-17-2007, 08:57 AM
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I pretty much only clean my barrels when I first get a new gun...

but when I do I use a .17 caliber rod with a .30 caliber round patch. Seems to work fine.
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:13 AM
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I use a Pro-shot .17 cal with a .22 hoop/slot(?) patch holder with 3/4" patches. After about 4-5 patches it's all clean and I don't have to work too hard to get it that way. I do clean after every outting.
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:38 AM
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For 95% of my cleaning I use a patch worm. At the range, I'll use the worm to run a patch or two through the bore before wiping it down and putting it away. The standard length (34") works well in both my American and my Trainer but it will be bit short if you have one of the long-barreled Ultra-Luxes. Not to worry! One of our members (Kitash) tells me the good folks at Patchworm.com will be glad to cut the "worm" extra long for you if you just give them a call. They recommend you get the worm cut to a length 10" longer than your barrel.

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I'm thinking maybe a .20 caliber rod would be better. Any thoughts?
Sometimes I do get the urge for a rigorous cleaning and when I do I I like the .20 cal rod solution and use a coated, one piece, rotating rod from Dewey, just like this one:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=163469

Note that it comes with a 5 x 40 female thread on the end, and that it comes with a 20 caliber jag (the proper name of that pointy thing that pushes the patch down the bore). I use the 20 caliber jag to clean my 22 caliber CZ and think it works just fine. If you want the 22 caliber jag, which might be a tight fit, this is the one you want:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=848458

You'll note it is threaded 8 x 32. So, to get it to fit on your rod you will need this adapter:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=656994

If you want a slotted tip instead of a jag, this is what you want:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=946246

Note that Dewey recommends using short (handgun length) brushes when using the .17/.20 rod to clean .22 -- the idea is that the shorter brush length = less friction = less bending of the rod = less chance of scraping the rod against the inside of the bore. Here is the one I use:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=349617

Once again, note that is threaded 8 x 32 so you'll need the adapter to get it on the .20 cal rod.

And this is a bore guide:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=189831

It slides into the action where your bolt would go and helps protect the rod from being beaten up the ejector. More importantly, it helps confine solvents to the bore area instead of allowing them to drool down into the mag well and other places they don't belong.

Midway doesn't always have the best prices so don't take my links to their site as a recommendation to buy from them (though there is nothing wrong with that either). I just know they have the nice pics.
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Old 11-17-2007, 10:01 AM
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I use a Dewey coated .22 cal. one piece rod on my CZ when I
do a spotless cleaning of the bore about twice a year.
If I use the .22 rod I must dissemble the rifle & take out
the ejecter plate then I use a bore guide. But you must
use the proper .22 cal. round cleaning patch's.

Or sometimes I use these European felt cleaning bobs with
my .22 rod & they work very well too.

Sometimes I get my .22 rod stuck in my bore too
if I don't use the proper cleaning patch.

I use a bore snake at the range if I feel the need to clean.
I have 3 .22 cal. bore snakes & they are marked 1-2-3
And I always use the same snake in that order.


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Old 11-17-2007, 02:45 PM
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Dewey .20 caliber rod works best on the CZ .22's.
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:56 PM
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Dewey .20 caliber rod works best on the CZ .22's.
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Old 11-17-2007, 03:23 PM
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I think you have some very solid answers on your cleaning rod question already. I just want to put another +1 in for the patchworm: Easy, effective, inexpensive (~$7), portable... great for lazy souls like me. There's always a ton of passion around cleaning... I think you just have to try different approaches and decide what works for you.
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Old 11-22-2008, 08:55 PM
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Sometimes I get my .22 rod stuck in my bore too
if I don't use the proper cleaning patch.

Swiss
Well shucks, the problem is you have to remove the seams first!

That was the funniest reply I've seen in a while!

Thank you!
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Old 11-22-2008, 09:02 PM
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I don't think it's the seams... I think you need to wash them first.
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Old 11-22-2008, 10:04 PM
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I use the green weed whacker line a ball melted on one end a sharpened point the other. I would think any of my guns would have to shoot pretty lousy before I put any rod coated or brass down it. it takes from my experience a lot of rounds for accuracy to drop off. I have found a wet patch occasionally pulled thru with a few dry is all thats ever needed.
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Old 11-23-2008, 12:11 AM
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Well I am done trying to tell people that they can use a Dewey .22 cal.
coated one piece cleaning rod.
If ya look down your receiver with your bolt out it will look like this.

Now what is that little square thing sticking up ????
Well its that deal that knocks the .22 cartridge from your claw extractor.
If a person removes that ejector plate your good to go with a .22 cleaning
rod with the proper cleaning patch... Thats all. LOL
I am going to keep using a .22 cal cleaning rod & if anybody wants to use a .17 or a .20 cal rod nock your socks off.

Here is a very good read on the extractor plate & how it can be modified.
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=237550
Very good thread by shorty. OMG looks like a good winter project for me.

Swiss

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