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Old 03-17-2017, 12:40 PM
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I thought that all Coopers of that vintage had Shilen barrels with the exception of a few that had Lilja.
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Could be, but I can't find any info from that era.
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FLASH UPDATE!

I should have said...online I couldn't find any info. Decided to dig out the old paperwork for my rifle. There was a separate sheet of paper that said "All M36 rifles have Shilen barrels." My rifle was one of the first ones off the line in early 1993.

The barrel that replaced the original one that didn't meet their accuracy standards was also a Shilen, so stated in that paperwork.

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I thought that all Coopers of that vintage had Shilen barrels with the exception of a few that had Lilja.
I'm pretty sure you're right because I have both.
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FLASH UPDATE!

I should have said...online I couldn't find any info. Decided to dig out the old paperwork for my rifle. There was a separate sheet of paper that said "All M36 rifles have Shilen barrels." My rifle was one of the first ones off the line in early 1993.

The barrel that replaced the original one that didn't meet their accuracy standards was also a Shilen, so stated in that paperwork.

You were right!
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I have been told that the guys from Best of the West use Wilson barrels on their long range rifles. They shoot pretty good on average.
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Wilson barrels and Cooper

Between myself and good friend who makes many trips west to PD shoot with me,we have owned upwards of 16 different Cooper rifles,non rimfire. All of these rifles had very nice wood and Wilson barrels. For the most part these rifles Will shoot about 3/4 to just under an inch at most range sessions with hand loads. I and my friend rate these rifles as good shooters but not absolute tack drivers.. Several have went out to Greg Tannel for accurizing and came back as consistent 1/2 inch shooters at 100 yds. We have often wondered the test groups target that comes with all Coopers must be shot at 50 yds or closer because we never Seem to shoot as tight a group that comes with the rifle when purchased new. I'm certainly not complaining about Wilson barrels..I just think their on par with ER Shaw..better barrels than most factory barrels but not in the same class as Kreiger ,Bartlein ,Obermyer ..etc. I'm just saying that a 2500.00 Cooper should come with a premium target quality barrel...
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Old 04-20-2017, 03:05 PM
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I agree but then it will be a $2800 Cooper!
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Old 04-20-2017, 03:49 PM
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Wilson Barrels

Guess it must be my clean livin'. Have a M52 30/06 and a M54 7MM/08 that both shoot consistently 3 shot groups under 1/2" @100 yards off the bench and a 57M LVT that runs 1/4-5/16" 5 shoots 50 yards. Wilson barrels. Plus I may have 2 or 3 additional Coopers (Varmint Rifles) that sport Wilson barrels and they're super accurate (sub 1/2" 5 shot groups at 100 yards.
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Guess it must be my clean livin'. Have a M52 30/06 and a M54 7MM/08 that both shoot consistently 3 shot groups under 1/2" @100 yards off the bench and a 57M LVT that runs 1/4-5/16" 5 shoots 50 yards. Wilson barrels. Plus I may have 2 or 3 additional Coopers (Varmint Rifles) that sport Wilson barrels and they're super accurate (sub 1/2" 5 shot groups at 100 yards.
I have a halfdozen or so Coopers, all with Wilson barrels, and all mine perform like Lunde Sr's. I can't attribute mine to clean living so maybe it's just that the majority of Wilson barrels are good.

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Old 04-20-2017, 08:09 PM
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My 36 with the Shilen barrel will outshoot Any of the 4 or 5 57-M's that I have or have had; including one JSR that had to go back and the only fix was a re-chamber with a "new match chamber reamer". That JSR when returned still did not shoot as well as my 36. Production Wilson barrels sent to Cooper are decent at best and dogs are not uncommon. I have many friends that have tried and tried to get rimfire Cooper/Wilson's to shoot and have simply given up. Most people expect .3 at 50 yards out of these guns. That just does not seem very doable with the production Wilson barrels. Just my thoughts guys. I'm not a hater, just disappointed in general. On a happy ending note, my .22 Squirrel CF gun will shoot one hole clover leafs with hand loads more often than not.
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Old 04-20-2017, 11:54 PM
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I recently sold the OEM take off barrel from my 57M (Build date 2005 and I have absolutely no idea as to whether it was a Wilson or not).

What I do know is that the buyer (who owns a number of Cooper and Anschutz rifles) scoped it with his Hawkeye and told me that the internal finish was much better than Anschutz and actually looked like a hand lapped barrel.
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