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Old 02-17-2017, 11:27 AM
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Hi, this is my first post on the forums. I'm fairly new to shooting and bought a new 10/22 a few weeks ago (standard model with wood stock). I've found the most comfortable/natural position to hold the gun is with the butt of the bun higher on my shoulder. If I lower it so that it rests nicely in the pocket of my shoulder, I have to move my neck too far down and forward in order to site the gun which feels very awkward. Does this mean I need a longer 'length of pull'? I'm not a huge guy (I'm 5'8" and average build,) so I'm kind of surprised the gun feels small to hold. Anyone else have this problem? Do I need a recoil pad to extend the length? I'm also considering upgrading to a Hogue over-molded stock anyway which I think is longer, so maybe that will help the problem?

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Old 02-17-2017, 12:11 PM
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I'm 5' 8", and the carbine stocks are way to short for me.
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:20 PM
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From your description it would be the "comb" height. I assume your using the "iron sights" because a scope would be higher!
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If you are changing the stock why worry about it? Deal with it when you re-stock. And as stated above it may be that you need a cheek riser and not a longer stock...depending on optics..or not.
I'm 6'x 190lbs. and after setting them up properly do not have a problem with carbine stocks.
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First off,

May I suggest you find a Project Appleseed event near you and attend. They will teach you how to use a service grade rifle and ammo too make shots out to 500 yards.

If your shooting is in the standing position, it is normal to place the butt of the stock high on the shoulder, not in the "pocket" as you note. Your head should be held up-right, not tipped over. Your equilibrium will be effected otherwise.

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Your head should be held up-right, not tipped over. Your equilibrium will be effected otherwise.
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Here is a short informative article from Browning on stock fitment. It deals with shotguns, but a rifle will be no different. The best fit is one that feels natural as you level the rifle and look down the sight plane of whatever sights you are using.

http://www.browning.com/support/freq...gun-stock.html

and a video from Boyds on how to measure length of pull:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOgIPbzKHWI


comb height can be determined by adding to the top of the existing comb with one of the leather wrap around type or I've seen a neoprene comb raising kit that slips over and holds tight to the stock.

A perfect fitting stock will allow you to bring the rifle up to your shoulder with your eyes closed with no further adjustment when you open them.
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But, this should ONLY be necc. IF you are using optics and Med. or High rings.. may variables here.

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https://www.slickguns.com/product/ma...le-stocks-2095
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Some very good responses, thanks. Yes I'm using iron sights at the moment but plan to get a scope next week (3-9x40 and medium rings.) I just find it uncomfortable to have to scrunch my neck way down in order to see through the sights. Raising the butt of the gun so that only the bottom tip touches my body helps but that doesn't seem like the right way to hold the gun. But, maybe this won't even be an issue once I add the scope since the scope will raise my light of sight. And, the new stock should help some too.

That project Appleseed program looks freaking awesome. I'm near Dallas so the closest one is 1.5 hours away. I wish there was one closer but I'm going to seriously consider this. Also, the links to the video, products, and articles were very helpful.
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With your scope you should find it very comfy.. I dislike shooting with open/irons.. no thanks.
Now.. that 3-9x40.. what zactly is it? IF..IF it's a rimfire scope it's likely fixed focus short enough you will be O.K./fine without A/O.. BUT, if it's a typical hunting rifle scope you will find it hard to focus at 25-50 yds (Blurry)... Adjustable(A/O) is the only way to go with Rimfire's IMO...don't limit yourself with a bad optic.

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http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums....php?p=1951780
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=257018
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...05#post3203305
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Old 02-17-2017, 03:40 PM
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adjust your stock to fit you, not you to the stock.

I explain it like this to fellow shooters, if you where going to a wedding and bought a new suit and you found the trousers legs where too long for you, you would have them tailored, so why shoot with an ill fitting gun ?
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With your scope you should find it very comfy.. I dislike shooting with open/irons.. no thanks.
Now.. that 3-9x40.. what zactly is it? IF..IF it's a rimfire scope it's likely fixed focus short enough you will be O.K./fine without A/O.. BUT, if it's a typical hunting rifle scope you will find it hard to focus at 25-50 yds (Blurry)... Adjustable(A/O) is the only way to go with Rimfire's IMO...don't limit yourself with a bad optic.

Read up...
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums....php?p=1951780
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=257018
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...05#post3203305
The scope I bought is a BSA sweet .22. It's supposed to be delivered on Monday. Not to change the topic too much, but do you have any good links on zeroing a scope for this gun?
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One more good one...

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/netwo...ng-up-a-scope/
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