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Old 02-14-2017, 02:37 PM
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Thought I would put t thread up on my 422 builds.

I've picked up a few trashed out 422's lately, have some interesting builds that will happen over the next few months.

First is a 422 that was undoubtedly the dirtiest gun I have ever seen, looked like it spent a few years under a car seat, lint, dirt, rust, and the muzzle was beat up and the sight was broken. Rather than pull it a part and throw the parts in a box I decided to build a "414". I really like shooting my 2214 and 2213 but the 8 round mag cuts the fun short. I run 12 rounders in them, but don't like the short grip with the long mag, and haven't made the time to produce a mag sleeve yet. So I looked at this trashed out 422, and one of the extra 2213/2214 barrels I have laying around and came up with the crazy idea of a "414". Time will tell if it works as I expect, I will dovetail a front sight onto it like the 2213 and 2214.



The next project is a pair of 4.5" 422's I am building for my boys, rounded trigger guard, will mill the muzzle to look like a 622 4.5"VR, use a fixed sight slide with LPA or Novak sights, and I will either dovetail a front sight in, or install a white dot 2206 front sight if I can make it work with the VR type milling. Both guns will have EWK threaded adapters as well. Here is the "crispy critter" I built a while back where I tested some of these mods.



Last is a 422 that has been sitting around for a bit, I milled the muzzle and the trigger guard, installed a 2206 side plate for a little extra weight in the grip, may change the front sight, then send this one off with the others when they are Cerakoted.



I really enjoy giving new life to these old guns, and making them into something that will be passed down in my family.

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Old 02-14-2017, 03:59 PM
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Nice work! I love them.
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Old 02-14-2017, 07:34 PM
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Amazing work... I'd love to see more. I'm working on swapping sites on my 2214. I've picked up a LPA sight. A problem was that the dovetail tapers are opposite. I may have to have it professionally installed or buy a few tools for a one time use. Any suggestions?
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Old 02-14-2017, 08:46 PM
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Amazing work... I'd love to see more. I'm working on swapping sites on my 2214. I've picked up a LPA sight. A problem was that the dovetail tapers are opposite. I may have to have it professionally installed or buy a few tools for a one time use. Any suggestions?
LPA should go right in, although it isn't unusual to have to lightly file the sight to make it fit. If you look at the back dovetail on the sight it isn't as sharp as the front, use a small triangle file, and VERY JUDICIOUSLY file, and fit. The dovetail also has a very slight taper, goes into the slide from the left side(as you are holding the gun). Filing on the back dovetail makes it so you won't see the file marks. You might also take some very fine(400-600) sand paper and make sure the dovetail slot is nice and smooth.

That's an LPA on the black gun above...

Can you post a pic?

As a last resort if you want to send it to me I will install it for you, just pay the postage.

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Old 02-15-2017, 08:09 AM
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Very nice work! I have always liked the 422 622 2206 line.
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Old 02-15-2017, 08:51 AM
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Thanks for the information on the installation process. I think I'll give it a go, but I will keep your offer in mind.
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Old 02-15-2017, 10:59 AM
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"The dovetail also has a very slight taper, goes into the slide from the left side(as you are holding the gun). "

That is good to know! I'm use to in-out from the right on guns I have.

I like the 4.5 (pictured above). Not a big fan of the VR look.
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Old 02-15-2017, 04:48 PM
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"The dovetail also has a very slight taper, goes into the slide from the left side(as you are holding the gun). "

That is good to know! I'm use to in-out from the right on guns I have.

I like the 4.5 (pictured above). Not a big fan of the VR look.
That is specific to the LPA sights, says so in their instructions, and a caliper validates it.

I really like the "vented" muzzle, the VR is one of my favorites, but price wise they are ridiculous.

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Old 02-15-2017, 06:53 PM
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Messing around a bit with the 414 tonight.

Once the muzzle is chopped the end needs to be counter bored to accept the barrel nut or threaded adapter. I will do this with a counter bore bit. Needs to be sized with a pilot that fits in the bore for the barrel, and have the correct OD for the barrel nut.

As I was looking at the portion of the muzzle I removed I discovered that the area the barrel goes into has a "step" at the end to properly center the barrel. In other words the bore is larger for the length of the barrel until about the last 1/4". What this means is that I will need to make a small bushing to fit into this area the make sure the pistol shoots straight. An unexpected step, but not a big deal.
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Old 02-17-2017, 09:44 AM
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I've removed the rear sight from my 2214 and indeed it starts in from the left side. It appears that the dovetail on my slide is a tad deeper than the sight. I may have to clean some metal off of the back of the slide below where the sight would sit. I'll have to measure and figure out how much tonight. I will have to do the removal by hand. Wishing I still had access to a Bridgeport mill.
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:36 AM
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I've removed the rear sight from my 2214 and indeed it starts in from the left side. It appears that the dovetail on my slide is a tad deeper than the sight. I may have to clean some metal off of the back of the slide below where the sight would sit. I'll have to measure and figure out how much tonight. I will have to do the removal by hand. Wishing I still had access to a Bridgeport mill.
That's interesting.

Have access to a set of calipers? I could measure a couple of slides and tell you if that is the issue. Could be an issue with the sight also.

BTW I would be more inclined to take the material off of the sight if possible.
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:20 AM
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Yes I have calipers at home. I knew I should have thrown them in the bag. I'm not sure there is any material on the bottom of the sight to take off. I will know more later. The LPA sight is really low profile.
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:29 AM
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Yes I have calipers at home. I knew I should have thrown them in the bag. I'm not sure there is any material on the bottom of the sight to take off. I will know more later. The LPA sight is really low profile.
Just measured 2 slides, they are both about .11" deep. Measured 2 different LPS sights, one is .116", the other is .118", so they are close, but should clear.
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:30 AM
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I took another look at the bottom of the LPA and the elevation screw has a hairs clearance. Nope, can't remove metal from there.
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:01 PM
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I took another look at the bottom of the LPA and the elevation screw has a hairs clearance. Nope, can't remove metal from there.
Interesting, the ones I have look like you could.

Crappy close up iphone pics, but it gives you the perspective, this one shows the elevation screw not bottomed out in the hole.



And this one shows that there is a fair amount that could be removed:

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