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Old 02-14-2017, 08:16 PM
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Just happened upon this thread and did some reading. I know nothing about cameras. This is what I am using - Canon powershot SX500IS. It gets the job done and has more features than I can use. Is it OK, Medicore or junk. I won't be getting rid of it, just curious. Wayne
I don't think Canon makes much of anything that is junk. Even their inexpensive point and shoot cameras are pretty good. My opening pictures were taken with a $100 Canon point and shoot. See that moon shot....that is where point and shoot and bridge cameras fail.

Your camera is a notch up the scale from mine....you are in the bridge category of cameras. Yours is a camera that fits between the point and shoot....(size wise, cost wise, sensor and lens quality wise, quality of picture wise, etc.) and an enthusiasts/professional mirrorless or DSLR camera.

It all depends on what you want to do with a camera and plenty of photographers carry a point and shoot, a bridge and a full size DSLR. The point and shoot is the Ruger LCP.....no reason to leave home without it on your person in case you run across something that you really wish to capture or video. Of course....phones do this also these days and just as well if not better. Your limitations will be that you can't change lenses, you can't put on a 1.2 35mm really fast lens for taking pictures indoors or late in the evening where you need all the light you can get and you probably can't adjust depth of field, shutter speed, iso, etc. Some effects and some adjustments...yes, but not the type professionals or even enthusiasts require. I would be in the enthusiast category as I have no intention of earning a living with a camera, or selling pictures or being a wedding photographer. But I won't get there with a $100 camera.

To jump into the enthusiast level I will need to be able to change lenses, make appropriate adjustments to the camera and this means a good mirrorless or DSLR. With a DSLR you are looking through the lens. What the lens is seeing is what you will be seeing. With other cameras including point and shoot, bridge and mirrorless you are looking at a screen depicting what the lens is seeing.....not actually looking through the lens like you would with a rifle scope for example. In a DSLR you are actually looking through the lens but looking at the image on a mirror as part of the sight line.

All of this is rapidly changing though. Some say the smaller mirrorless will kill the larger DSLR cameras. Others say not. When the inauguration was going on I was interested in seeing what the professional photographers were using. Nearly all had more than one expensive camera, most had Canon and most had a $5,000+ body with a $75,000 lens on each one. Oh well, it is what they make their living with.... My bobcats and dump trucks didn't come cheap either.

So you have a very good camera. But it has its limits. It will not compete with cameras where a $100 to $100,000 lens can be attached. I'm finding that most really good enthusiast lenses sell in the $500 to $2,000 range. The more light the lens lets in.....the bigger the glass and the more it costs. 1917
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Thanks for the explanation. My previous camera was a Minolta 7000i with 5 different lenses. Never did learn to use that to an advantage. Just had big dreams when I bought it. For the pictures I will take the Canon will do the job just fine.
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I hear you and that is where I'm hung up.......I've worn out several point and shoots.....why? Because I always have one in my pocket or in the truck and I find them a bit easier to use than my I Phone. Now I'm not getting rid of the point and shoot but want to step it up....so I can get that moon shot. The problem is.....that moon shot comes along very infrequently and a really good bridge or perhaps better yet....a really good mirrorless with say, three lenses....10mm to 35mm, a 50mm prime and a 70mm to 200mm, all of them high end would cover me 99.9% of the time. My skills will never exceed the need for anything better than a good mirrorless or DSLR because I'm just not that interested and I don't want something sitting in the safe.....so, what to do, what to do...... The prime for when I want a carry around without the big lenses. This one I borrowed would actually be pretty small with a short prime on it. Smaller than your camera I believe. That Canon 80D is superb....but small it ain't. The lenses alone are larger than your camera. Gonna get something.....what prezackly....haven't decided. 1917
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If you still have the minolta lenses look at sony cameras. They bought out minoltas digital cameras. your old lenses are compatible
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If you end up going with a Canon, especially on of the APS-C models, I would recommend the 15-85 zoom lens as a good all around lens. The is my primary with a 70-200 L series for telephoto coupled with a 2x extender when needed. Besides these 2 I have a nice fast 50m for inside shots (but a fast wide angle would be better), and a 60mm macro for close stuff. As for the body, pick what you like. My last purchase I went with a SL1 based on the size. I been thinking of adding a M3 to the bag, but it will require an adapter to use my existing lenses.

Get as much resolution as you can afford, as you will find that you take pictures that you need to crop to really capture your subject.

Having said all that when we do our annual motorcycle trip (2 weeks) we always take a Nikon point and shoot. Mainly because it has good resolution and a really long optical zoom.

Certainly not an expert, but this is what has worked well for me.
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This has been a very interesting thread, most of it way over my head. A number of things discussed have helped me out as I am wanting to get a different camera to mainly take pictures of my son in track. I'm thinking of a used Canon, maybe a T2i or T3i with short and long range lenses. This would be in a price range I am comfortable with and I think it is simple enough that I could figure out part of it anyway. Mistake? Does it fall in line with some of the things being discussed on use and quality of pics for the money.

Thanks and hope I'm not distracting the discussion.
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This has been a very interesting thread, most of it way over my head. A number of things discussed have helped me out as I am wanting to get a different camera to mainly take pictures of my son in track. I'm thinking of a used Canon, maybe a T2i or T3i with short and long range lenses. This would be in a price range I am comfortable with and I think it is simple enough that I could figure out part of it anyway. Mistake? Does it fall in line with some of the things being discussed on use and quality of pics for the money.

Thanks and hope I'm not distracting the discussion.
Those would probably work out great for you. They are 18 mega pixel each. That is about three times the pixel size of a standard non-digital film camera. The more the pixels, the more you can blow up a photo without distortion. This comes into play not only when producing larger photos and posters, but also for cropping. 18 should be fine unless you are interested in large posters. The vibration reduction feature of the lens will help steady action shots. You can also adjust the auto-focusing sensors from the whole frame down to just the center. This is something lesser cameras do not offer but can make a big difference when switching between still shots and action shots.
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